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Poll Question: Which is your favourite?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Padraic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 14:52
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

My theory is that the implications of these studies might have some implications for music as well. If I had done that PhD I might have developed this theory more...  Cry Why didn't I do that PhD? sniff sniff...

I too bailed on a PhD program.  Ended up having kids and moving to the suburbs.  Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jude111 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 14:55
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

My theory is that the implications of these studies might have some implications for music as well. If I had done that PhD I might have developed this theory more...  Cry Why didn't I do that PhD? sniff sniff...

I too bailed on a PhD program.  Ended up having kids and moving to the suburbs.  Wink

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DisgruntledPorcupine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 15:04
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

I do agree with Dean, the list is very American-centric. This highlights how large the divide is between American and British music. 

The fact the American indie scene was larger than anywhere else is a good reason. Check out the electronic poll from the same site. There is only 1 American choice there.

I disagree totally. I prefer the British music of this same era, which towers over the American scene, IMO: The Smiths, My Bloody Valentine, Stone Roses, the Pogues, Manic Street Preachers, Primal Scream, the Prodigy, Massive Attack, Tricky, Portishead, Chemical Brothers, Pet Shop Boys, Spacemen 3/Spiritualized, the Cure, Jesus and Mary Chain, the Blue Nile, Stereolab, the Orb, Future Sound of London, Aphex Twin, Mogwai, Britpop (Suede, Blur, Pulp, Oasis, Verve, Radiohead), and so much more...
You do realize not one of these bands fall into the indie rock umbrella (except for a couple Smiths albums and SOME of the Britpop)... Lots of these aren't even ROCK. Ermm 


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Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

...as rated by RYM users in the UK.

And there you go, it's barely different.

Now let's please stop throwing around accusations of bias because your favourite bands aren't up there.
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Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

 
You do realize not one of these bands fall into the indie rock umbrella (except for a couple Smiths albums and SOME of the Britpop)...

I'm not really familiar with Rate Your Music...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DisgruntledPorcupine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 15:12
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

 
You do realize not one of these bands fall into the indie rock umbrella (except for a couple Smiths albums and SOME of the Britpop)...

I'm not really familiar with Rate Your Music...
Well, it's not just RYM, lots of what you named isn't even rock, let alone indie rock. Like The Orb, TFSoL, Portishead, Tricky, Massive Attack. I have nothing against your opinion, but please remember what genre we're speaking of here. Tongue
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jude111 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 15:23
Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

Well, it's not just RYM, lots of what you named isn't even rock, let alone indie rock. Like The Orb, TFSoL, Portishead, Tricky, Massive Attack. I have nothing against your opinion, but please remember what genre we're speaking of here. Tongue

Again, I respectfully disagree. We're giving it labels now - assigning some bands to the trip-hop genre (even though when they came out, trip-hop didn't exist and wasn't a genre), calling another one ambient house (the Orb) and another acid (FSOL & Primal Scream) and another shoegaze (My Bloody Valentine) and another rave (the Prodigy) and another dream pop (Cocteau Twins) and triphop (Massive Attack) and big beat (Chemical Brothers) and post-rock (Mogwai) and IDM (Aphex Twin & Boards of Canada) even though those genres didn't exist either.

And that's kind of my point. British alternative music exploded into various different directions, while their American counterparts all kind of did the same thing. Americans say, "Oh wait, that's not even rock, let alone indie rock." That's a deeply conservative attitude, and typically (mainstream) American.

I stand by my thesis: British alternative music is far more varied and quickly to develop than American alternative music, which is much more conservative in comparison and slow to change. (Although I'm asking myself now whether perhaps the Internet's changed things a bit, made our worlds a bit more inter-connected and less place-bound?



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Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

Well, it's not just RYM, lots of what you named isn't even rock, let alone indie rock. Like The Orb, TFSoL, Portishead, Tricky, Massive Attack. I have nothing against your opinion, but please remember what genre we're speaking of here. Tongue

Again, I respectfully disagree. We're giving it labels now - assigning some bands to the trip-hop genre (even though when they came out, trip-hop didn't exist and wasn't a genre), calling another one ambient house (the Orb) and another acid (FSOL & Primal Scream) and another shoegaze (My Bloody Valentine) and another rave (the Prodigy) even though those genres didn't exist either.

And that's kind of my point. British alternative music exploded into various different directions, while their American counterparts all kind of did the same thing.

I stand by my thesis: British alternative music is far more varied and quickly to develop than American alternative music, which is much more conservative in comparison.

I'm confused. What does any of the first paragraph have to do with this poll at all? Confused This is an indie rock poll. You could make a case for MBV sure as they CAN be classified as indie in a sense (and in fact, Loveless is higher rated on that site than any album on this poll and is my favourite album of all time), but the others have nothing to do with anything going on.

And sure. That's your opinion. Run as far as you want with it. The poll remains the same. 


Edited by DisgruntledPorcupine - April 01 2013 at 15:34
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jude111 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 15:40
Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

 
And sure. That's your opinion. Run as far as you want with it. The poll remains the same. 

You're taking this personally. The poll's fine, I have no problem with the poll, and it's not a personal attack. I enjoy the poll. (I posted a poll myself recently about albums that were judged in an article to be the most key proto-prog albums of 1967. I posted the poll, but was open to criticism of the choices - I didn't make the choices, after all - and I was even critical myself about it.)


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Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

 
And sure. That's your opinion. Run as far as you want with it. The poll remains the same. 

You're taking this personally. The poll's fine, I have no problem with the poll, and it's not a personal attack. I enjoy the poll. (I posted a poll myself recently about albums that were judged in an article to be the most key proto-prog albums of 1967. I posted the poll, but was open to criticism of the choices - I didn't make the choices, after all - and I was even critical myself about it.)
I'm not taking anything personally. I just don't think it's fair to throw a bunch of artists not even in the genre into the mix. Tongue Guess I'm just an aggressive debater. 


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Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

 Guess I'm just an aggressive debater. 

Wink Well, I definitely am. My brother says I don't write, I drop bombs. LOL Sorry about that Big smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 19:27
Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

...as rated by RYM users in the UK.

And there you go, it's barely different.

Now let's please stop throwing around accusations of bias because your favourite bands aren't up there.
The chart should be radically different, but it's not. The National (for example) are not unknown in the UK but they won't have two albums in the top 10 and 3 in the top 20 - whatever algorithm RYM are using it's broken. And that's not because my "favourite bands not up there", (that's asinine and insulting), but because when I produce a similar chart for Gothic Rock (which is an incredibly regional genre) again I get a similar "barely different" set of charts for USA, UK and everyone... and that's daft and wrong (not withstanding the RYM tagging system is so broad and inaccurate that only 2 of the top 20 bands are actually Gothic Rock).


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I don't know many of these, but I vote for Turn On The Bright Lights - Interpol.
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indie has become kind of a useless term, but Funeral >> all
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Down Colorful Hill, pretty easily.
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