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Poll Question: Is Free Hand a 1* album?
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    Posted: May 17 2016 at 14:17
1199 ratings on PA coming to a 4.28.......for anyone to give it 1 star is a bit absurd imho but then there are a lot of absurd people around.
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I gave Free Hand 5 stars. My favorite GG album with Octopus and The Power and the Glory.
1 star album? that's Civilian.
Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement.
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I agree. But one star that's good enough Big smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guldbamsen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2016 at 14:37
I'd probably rate it 2 stars if I were to review it. The greatness of the giant is to be found on earlier albums.
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I wouldn't say it is exactly a 1 star album, because it wasn't that bad. However, I was disappointed when I first heard it and it's a pretty overrated album
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^ Agreed. Free Hand is far from my favorite GG album, but as much as I dislike Giant for a Day I wouldn't give it 1 star.

There's nothing wrong with giving Free Hand 1 star. In my opinion, it'd be even more wrong if you bumped up the rating just because of its general acclaim in the prog community. If you think it's bad, say it's bad.

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I would not rate any GG album 1 *
not even Giant for a Day which is their weakest effort IMO. 
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Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:



I review albums just by imagining what they might sound like.  Wink


f**k that is awesome. You make it sound so easy!! Such a doctor's gift. :)
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Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Sorry to interrupt the fight but what's'wrong with reviewing an album on the basis of youtube songs. Most of the songs or albums i downloaded from youtube are 192 kbps, which is good enough for a review. Many obscure psych rock albums of the sixties have very bad production and expose to a difficult listening experience but I could easily rate them 5 stars. Same goes for the demo tracks added on the bonus cds to marillion,s' albums or the unearthed kevin gilbert demos. I think that if an album is bad, which is the case of free hand, even the best audio quality will not help improving things.

Totally agree, except with Free hand being a bad album, which it obviously isn't. Good try though.
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I review albums just by imagining what they might sound like.  Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lucas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2013 at 13:29
Sorry to interrupt the fight but what's'wrong with reviewing an album on the basis of youtube songs. Most of the songs or albums i downloaded from youtube are 192 kbps, which is good enough for a review. Many obscure psych rock albums of the sixties have very bad production and expose to a difficult listening experience but I could easily rate them 5 stars. Same goes for the demo tracks added on the bonus cds to marillion,s' albums or the unearthed kevin gilbert demos. I think that if an album is bad, which is the case of free hand, even the best audio quality will not help improving things.
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Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Exxxxcellent (in Monty Burns voice, of course lol!)


yeah totally.
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Exxxxcellent (in Monty Burns voice, of course lol!)
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Omg I'm gone for 4 months and this is what I miss? Shame on me. This poll is definately the most outrageous I've come across for somebody being lambasted by posting a terrible review. I'm surprised Mr. Tubes is getting so much attention, but I guess if it effects the poll rating system of the album I guess admin and site managers have to jump in. I know that this is nothing short of an attention grab. I gotta give Tubby tubes credit for getting quite a lot of us riled up over a couple of reviews. I picture you, Mr. Tubes, as the Montgomery Burns type just biding your time while folding and dangling your hands in the steeple position. This is hilarious!!! Welcome back me!!!   
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Man Ermm..........I do like The Chicken Farmer Song!Big smileBeer
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Come over & bring Dean with you to The Flower Kings Appreciation Thread, from time to time.  We could use some more input from the UK. Our resident Brits have been otherwise disposed chasing around young ladies & playing rock star. The USA has had to carry most of the heavy lifting lately.
 
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

You know, the usual, ever trying to strike that balance betwix bemused irreverence and the firm right-hand of experienced authority and weathered charm, yet still managing to fail miserably on all attempts, much like yourself it would seem.
 
 
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Stop by The Flower King Appreciation Thread sometime.Tongue   We just recruited Biff Tannen, the guy with the single coolest name here on PA, so that is pretty cool.Cool
 
 
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Man Ermm..........I do like The Chicken Farmer Song!Big smileBeer
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dennismoore Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2013 at 13:38
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by Tubes Tubes wrote:

@Dean Are you stupid? I didn't buy Free Hand - I listened to it on Youtube, tard. 

A review should be based on careful listens. Youtube's quality is not good enough for that. 
 
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Regarding Dean's mental state of mind.  Dean is perhaps one of the very brightest here on PA and is the last person
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Youtube sucks for reviews.  If you can't take the time to review the music that plays it in a neutral or flat manner, you shouldn't review it.
 
Tubes could be related to Dr. Prog and should be given "special" handling.
 
If anybody get banned around here it should be for not liking The Flower Kings - The Chicken Farmer Song.
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by dennismoore dennismoore wrote:

@Dean - Wassup Baby??? I kinda miss you.Embarrassed
You know, the usual, ever trying to strike that balance betwix bemused irreverence and the firm right-hand of experienced authority and weathered charm, yet still managing to fail miserably on all attempts, much like yourself it would seem.

Oh snap.

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