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    Posted: April 01 2013 at 07:15
Rarely does a review enrage me, but to see my favourite GG album damned so completely has done do.
 
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He has the right to review it however he wants


he just might look pretty stupid
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If this review gets taken down, I am leaving ProgArchives.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sagichim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 07:44
I've rated albums with 1 star when others gave it 5. Nothing wrong with that.
It depends on what he writes inside, and what are the reasons for his 1 star rating.
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I think it's a great review, and I disagree with everything in the review.  The two are different things. No vote.


Edited by HolyMoly - April 01 2013 at 07:46
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote irrelevant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 07:56
Free Hand is a five star album to me, and is one of the few I'd give those full marks to. I'm surprised that review has received as much attention as it has, (BTW, I didn't read much of it). 

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But he sure does love VDGG.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gerinski Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 08:03
I don't agree with it but at least he seems to know what he is talking about and the review is well enough articulated, so no hard feelings, he is entitled to give his opinion.
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Well aside from a few places where it possibly verges on unduly rude, I think the review is fine. I certainly don't agree (although free hand is not my favourite GG album) with it AT ALL. It seems [bad joke]so sincere[/bad joke] to me, and that's what matters most.

As a big neo-prog fan I've lost count of the number of times I've had to endure some of my absolute favourites being savaged, but I wouldn't want to delete the reviews, I'd rather have a fair reflection of the overall opinion, even if I disagree with it vehemently.

That's not to say I can't be disappointed. I think I only get angry if it's clear someone has been lazy, or is writing the review for cynical reasons, or just dislikes everything in a subgenre and want to write it off, gives 1 star.

However, It would make me feel less inclined to speak my mind and give sincere 1 star reviews to albums I think warrant it if i thought people would get angry at me personally, and surely this isn't a situation we want to foster.

Still, Free Hand is a great album, so I'm obviously going to vote "No", but I put all my waffling preamble to that just so I'm clear about what my answer means.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote twosteves Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 08:11
saying my favorite GG only gets one star is overstating things and seems meant to get attention---which of course he has! lol Opinions are like "a*******s" we all have one----and the proof-- he loves VDGG --a group I don't get at all. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Mystical Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 08:17
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

I think it's a great review, and I disagree with everything in the review.  The two are different things. No vote.

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Absolutely not a 1 star album, and I fall in love with it everytime I get to the 50 second mark in the first track, at the bouncy `I'm just doing what I want to do....' bit!   
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Stool Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 08:54
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

I think it's a great review, and I disagree with everything in the review.  The two are different things. No vote.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hercules Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 09:00
Originally posted by The Mystical The Mystical wrote:

If this review gets taken down, I am leaving ProgArchives.
 
I completely agree with you. He has a perfect right to express his views and I have a perfect right to (vehemently)disagree with him.
 
Two years ago, I would have rated most VDGG albums (which he seems to love) as 1/2* because i really don't like their music. Now I would rate most of them 3* because they are just not to my taste rather than awful music.
 
 
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

He has the right to review it however he want

he just might look pretty stupid



agree.

for things like that he could use the 2 stars rating.

I for one, dont like VDGG, so I wont waste my time listening, reviewing or rating this band.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snow Dog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 09:21
No idea what review and without the common courtesy of providing a link I  never will.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Progosopher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 09:23
A surprising rating, given all the praise this album has received.  At the same time it is a well-written review, both informed and informative.  I disagree with the rating, so I voted "No," but the implication that such reviews should not be posted is inappropriate.  We each have our own take on things.  Part of the value of sites such as this is to read a variety of views and gain insight into a variety of experiences.
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I don't agree with the review but it's an opinion so won't fight it
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Padraic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 09:42
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

No idea what review and without the common courtesy of providing a link I  never will.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote twosteves Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 09:45
Originally posted by Progosopher Progosopher wrote:

A surprising rating, given all the praise this album has received.  At the same time it is a well-written review, both informed and informative.  I disagree with the rating, so I voted "No," but the implication that such reviews should not be posted is inappropriate.  We each have our own take on things.  Part of the value of sites such as this is to read a variety of views and gain insight into a variety of experiences.

Agree--but I'd be curious to know if reviewer likes/appreciates GG at all---if he does than this star rating doesn't make sense--I mean Rolling Stone hated Yes (generally speaking) so all of their reviews were generally bad, and or sarcastic. But I'd read them all and get sick to my stomachLOLI think reviewers have to go in with an open mind---or else you aren't going to get much from it---someone here said it--they don't like VDGG and wouldn't bother doing a review of it---which is where I'm coming from too.
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