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Poll Question: Is Free Hand a 1* album?
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    Posted: April 09 2013 at 21:24
Originally posted by dennismoore

You must learn to govern your passions, they will be your undoing.Wink

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Read his Octopus review; some of his arguments sound like something Robert Christgau or Dave Marsh would have mentioned, particularly "Raconteur Troubadour", which echoes the latter's sentiments that Queen were fascists because of "We Will Rock You".

In Tubes' defense:

1. As much as I like "Dog's Life", dedicating it to their roadies was very tacky on their part.

2. "Minstrel In The Gallery" is lyrically better than "Raconteur Troubadour". In fact, Jethro Tull usually had better lyrics than Gentle Giant.


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He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Tubes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2013 at 22:51
@Dean Are you stupid? I didn't buy Free Hand - I listened to it on Youtube, tard. 
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Anyway, ... way to talk to a site admin/mod like that.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Tubes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2013 at 22:57
@Dean, and for the umpteenth time: I do not abuse rating manipulation. My own listening experience is that Octopus is a crap album. Okay? Go to Amazon; there are at least a handful of reviews there from GENTLE GIANT FANS, discouraging consumers from purchasing Octopus because IT SUCKS. 
I'll also have you know that I'll address you any which way I want, "full quoting capability" or not. 
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This commotion was brought to you by ... :


"People tell you life is short. ... No, it's not. Life is long. Especially if you make the wrong decisions." - Chris Rock
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Larree Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2013 at 23:05
Love this thread.  Some funny stuff.  But Tubes?  Gotta ask.  Why you gotta be so mean?

Here.  This song is for you!  LOL


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Ohoho this is quite the thread we have here. Can't say I didn't see this coming eventually though.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dayvenkirq Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2013 at 23:13
What the man needs is a warning from someone, and this thread to be locked.

Edit: ... and a doctor's appt.


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"People tell you life is short. ... No, it's not. Life is long. Especially if you make the wrong decisions." - Chris Rock
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Post Options Post Options   Quote octopus-4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2013 at 23:27
Originally posted by Tubes

@Dean Are you stupid? I didn't buy Free Hand - I listened to it on Youtube, tard. 

A review should be based on careful listens. Youtube's quality is not good enough for that. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote octopus-4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2013 at 23:30
So have we filled a 9 pages thread on youtube?
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@Dayvenkirq, Showing me some dude's ass...wow, some of you people are more childish than I would have imagined. To address your point: I insulted him because he insulted me by making an uninformed presumption about how I research some of the crap releases this site holds in such high regard. 
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Originally posted by Tubes

@Dean, and for the umpteenth time: I do not abuse rating manipulation. My own listening experience is that Octopus is a crap album. Okay? Go to Amazon; there are at least a handful of reviews there from GENTLE GIANT FANS, discouraging consumers from purchasing Octopus because IT SUCKS. 
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Let's see... Amazon... Octopus (2011 edition) ...

There are 68 reviews. Of those:

5 star - 47
4 star - 14
3 star - 3
2 star - 2
1 star - 2

Of the four lowest ratings, three of them are mainly based on the poor quality of their copy, rather than the album itself.

By this point, I'm just throwing my hands up and refusing to take a side. If Tubes doesn't want to like Gentle Giant, that's his right. He doesn't have to like them if he doesn't want to. As for Tubes, I suggest you do a bit more research on analyzing the opinions of others regarding a work.


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GENTLE GIANT Octopus ratings distribution


4.24
(982 ratings)
 Essential: a masterpiece of progressive rock music(56%)
56%
 Excellent addition to any prog rock music collection(32%)
32%
Good, but non-essential (9%)
9%
Collectors/fans only (2%)
2%
Poor. Only for completionists (1%)
1%

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Post Options Post Options   Quote octopus-4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2013 at 23:35
Tubes is saying that "this site holds in such high regard"...

982 persons including tubes have spent time reviewing or rating Octopus and more than half of them consider it a masterpiece. This is not a "site" thing.

You represent the (rounded up) 1%. Where do you take your unique wisdom from?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Tubes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2013 at 23:44
@octopus-4, Just to point something out here: Those are YOUR words describing my opinion, which for all intents and purposes IS FACT, as "UNIQUE WISDOM". Thank you much for the compliment!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Tubes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2013 at 23:47
@octopus-4, and so what if I'm the minority here? According to scripture, the majority is wrong the majority of the time.  
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Originally posted by Tubes

@Dayvenkirq, Showing me some dude's ass...wow, some of you people are more childish than I would have imagined. To address your point: I insulted him because he insulted me by making an uninformed presumption about how I research some of the crap releases this site holds in such high regard. 
Thou might as well buyeth yourself some sense of humor.
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@Dayvenkirq, Alright that's pretty funny. 
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Originally posted by Tubes

@DeanI'll also have you know that I'll address you any which way I want, "full quoting capability" or not. 
No I don't think so, for instance if I were to call you a disturbed little weenie, it might cause some tension between you and I.   But I don't think you'll be around much longer unless Admin decide to conduct an experiment in extreme tolerance.

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