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pianoman 
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 Topic: Can a band be prog without making a studio album?Posted: April 22 2013 at 17:43 |
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Could be the same for any genre. The genre is irrelevant.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: April 22 2013 at 17:44 |
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Sorry, it's 3:43pm here, and I still haven't got enough sleep.
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"People tell you life is short. ... No, it's not. Life is long. Especially if you make the wrong decisions." - Chris Rock
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pianoman
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Posted: April 22 2013 at 17:45 |
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Its all good!
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: April 22 2013 at 18:06 |
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I don't see why they can't be ?
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Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
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moshkito
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Posted: April 23 2013 at 12:57 |
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Bizarre question ... !!! You don't need a studio anymore ... there isn't a DAW out there that can't even Master your own work! Strange to even hear that question ... like people can not have a musical ability that Mozart had a few years back, or that the Beatles had 50 years ago! Or the ability to manipulate a DAW, and do work far more progressive, interesting and experimental than anything we have ever heard or seen! One note, though ... it could be said, and stated in the definition of "progressive" that the requirement might be the human element, with 2 or more folks playing together ... so when you hear Gary Green tell you that ... we just played and that it was improvised ... you don't go freaking out because you have no idea where to start that ... but the harmony quota would be even easier and crazier adn more fun to put together in a DAW, I bet! And this might be where, a lot of modern players, have not yet gotten to go crazy and have fun with the tools that they are working on.
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... none of the hits, none of the time ... you might actually find your own art, or self, next to all the bs we spend our time with, listening to some kind of a Guru!
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horza
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Posted: April 24 2013 at 00:56 |
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I remember this band!! Thanks for reminding me. 
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
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tamijo
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Posted: April 24 2013 at 06:32 |
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Simple as that  Edited by tamijo - April 24 2013 at 06:32 |
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The original spirit of prog was about getting beyond silly and arbitrary genre confines. In embracing all sorts of musics in the pursuit of creative freedom.
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Posted: April 24 2013 at 06:39 |
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tamijo
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Posted: April 24 2013 at 11:59 |
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Absolutely, the flaw lies in the question
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The original spirit of prog was about getting beyond silly and arbitrary genre confines. In embracing all sorts of musics in the pursuit of creative freedom.
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progbethyname
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Posted: April 24 2013 at 12:23 |
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Haha yes!! What the f**k is everyone going on about here? Prog is prog weather you hear it live or from a studio recording. You don't have to have the tangibles to back it up like studio album cd's. Also if the live album is good enough like the aforementioned SECONDS OUT, it's still prog baby!! |
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Saviour Machine's entire discography is a wonderful edition to anyone's progressive music collection. I stand by it all. Give Heaven's Metal a chance. ;)
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Dean
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Posted: April 24 2013 at 12:38 |
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moshkito
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Posted: April 28 2013 at 17:55 |
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Yeah, but you did not see that I made a comparative statement that you took off on your own tangent and immediately transposed Mozart to today's time, when that is NOT what I did! So, your coment ... is quite un-necessary and wrong ... again, based on what you said, eeveryone is too stupid to be able to create anything Prog ... or even come close to make a studio album! You could not possibly see that I think that many of the folks in the area or "progressive" are far better composers of music than Mozart ever was! Of course not, you treat all these prog folks as idiots, from your comment!
 ... ohh wait ... you wouldn't know about A=B and B=C and this C equals A thing ... that's just not smart logic for your reading! Edited by moshkito - April 28 2013 at 17:58 |
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... none of the hits, none of the time ... you might actually find your own art, or self, next to all the bs we spend our time with, listening to some kind of a Guru!
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Larree
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Posted: April 28 2013 at 18:08 |
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Maybe the question should be can a band be prog if they do not have the money or gear to record their music and no label wants to sign them because they are not (potentially) commercial enough?
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Posted: April 28 2013 at 22:05 |
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Computer says no.
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moshkito
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Posted: April 29 2013 at 10:33 |
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As Dean said ... YES Next!
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... none of the hits, none of the time ... you might actually find your own art, or self, next to all the bs we spend our time with, listening to some kind of a Guru!
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Stool Man
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Posted: April 29 2013 at 10:39 |
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We were added a year ago, it only took four years of asking |
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HackettFan
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Posted: May 01 2013 at 22:14 |
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If a band is playing progressive music in the forest and there's no one there to hear them, are they still Prog?
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: May 01 2013 at 23:08 |
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Of course they still are.
> "Well, yeah, brilliant deduction, you genius."
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octopus-4
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Posted: May 01 2013 at 23:31 |
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Like them?
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Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half.
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moshkito
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Posted: May 04 2013 at 14:20 |
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BUT ... does it diminish what the work is ... for them? Or does it raise it, for that matter! And that's an issue ... minor one! But the history of the arts is predicated on it BEING HEARD/BEING SEEN/BEING READ ... which kinda defeats your wording and statement! So, if you just play for yourself in the garage and no one will hear it ... fine ... but if your son lets it out after you do, and we listen to it and go ... wow ... that's progressive ... that's a whole different other story, isn't it. Let's all do the timewarp now!
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... none of the hits, none of the time ... you might actually find your own art, or self, next to all the bs we spend our time with, listening to some kind of a Guru!
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