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Joined: July 20 2009
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Posted: May 06 2013 at 00:06
Hmmmm... Tony Kaye's Badger had a live debut release, "One Live Badger." I didn't know of any followup, but they did release a studio work called "White Lady" after Tony left. I've never heard that one.
"One Live Badger" was quite good, and it had an exquisite Roger Dean cover!
I think it can be the question about studio effects - are they so essential to music which we consider as prog rock or they are not? You can easily imagnine (and hear of course) King Crimson, Yes, ELP or even Marillion and Dream Theater playing live same stuff as on studio album. But then take,for the example, most known progressive Pink Floyd albums like Dark Side of the Moon or Whish You Were Here - they're very "produced" (which I mean very well produced) and sample tracks need to be used live to make it sound enjoyable.
Joined: March 31 2012
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Posted: July 01 2013 at 00:28
Stool Man wrote:
What if a band was very prog,undeniably and obviously prog in its sound and style and instrumentation and technique and all the rest of it, but with the exception that the band never makes a studio album, only live albums. How important is the studio album in regarding this-or-that band as being prog?
If the only Gentle Giant album was Playing The Fool, or if the only Genesis album was Seconds Out, would they be prog?
If the only Dream Theater albums were their live ones, would they be prog?
We seem to mainly focus on a band's studio albums, but what if a band never made one, yet was prolific in the release of live recordings?
I think that if a band only made live albums, and the production/performance/music was good, it would be awesome!
Joined: March 31 2012
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Posted: July 01 2013 at 00:40
Investinmolden wrote:
I think it can be the question about studio effects - are they so essential to music which we consider as prog rock or they are not? You can easily imagnine (and hear of course) King Crimson, Yes, ELP or even Marillion and Dream Theater playing live same stuff as on studio album. But then take,for the example, most known progressive Pink Floyd albums like Dark Side of the Moon or Whish You Were Here - they're very "produced" (which I mean very well produced) and sample tracks need to be used live to make it sound enjoyable.
But sampling can be done live to great effect. And, I for one really dig it when people can control it themselves, making it a relatively more viable part of the artistic experience.
Joined: September 20 2010
Location: Serbia
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Posted: July 24 2013 at 00:52
Stool Man wrote:
What if a band was very prog,undeniably and obviously prog in its sound and style and instrumentation and technique and all the rest of it, but with the exception that the band never makes a studio album, only live albums. How important is the studio album in regarding this-or-that band as being prog?
If the only Gentle Giant album was Playing The Fool, or if the only Genesis album was Seconds Out, would they be prog?
If the only Dream Theater albums were their live ones, would they be prog?
We seem to mainly focus on a band's studio albums, but what if a band never made one, yet was prolific in the release of live recordings?
A prog band can exists without studio album(s) but the studio work with all of studio effects made prog as a genre imo.
Joined: March 29 2013
Location: WA
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Posted: July 24 2013 at 23:03
Sure a band can be "prog" without a studio album. Twelfth Night released 2 or 3 live cassette only albums before they were able to record "Fact and Fiction". They didn't magically "become prog" (or neo-prog in their case) by stepping into a recording studio.
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