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Originally posted by StaaViinsZ StaaViinsZ wrote:

Quote let's see.... Gamma Ray are not Prog and never will be, and they certainly were not popular in the 70s.


lol.


NOT... PROG...???

Well, you have to admit, a 9 minute song might be just a little SEMI-PROGRESSIVE FOR METAL...
Nope. Song-length is not a dictum of Prog. Power Metal is Power Metal, Prog Metal is Prog Metal. I've seen Gamma Ray live and they are Power Metal.
Originally posted by StaaViinsZ StaaViinsZ wrote:

 

But no, they weren't popular in the 70s. 

Mibad for off-topic post, milady, that is, if you are a lady, it's weird the avatars some people have sometimes...
So you're a reptile. Your deductive logic is impeccable.
Originally posted by StaaViinsZ StaaViinsZ wrote:

 

I suppose, though, lets face it, this thread is Prog70s.
If you don't like 70s, and are gonna talk about things that are barely in the "semi-questionable" Prog territory, then 

WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON THIS THREAD!?!?
Is that a rhetorical question?
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Can I get a... A-OKAY WITH ME? 
lol.
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Originally posted by StaaViinsZ StaaViinsZ wrote:

No.
And in the 80's, there was no Hair Metal.
In the seventies, There was no Hard Rock.
In the sixties, there was no Rock N' Roll.
In the fifties, there was no Jazz.
In the fourties, there was no Swing (or was that fifties?)
In the 30s, whatever there was then, that was even slightly rockin', it didn't happen.
DON'T YOU GET IT?!
THE ONLY MUSIC THAT EVER EXISTED WAS DAVID AND THE HARP!!
EVER!!


My other drastic opinion would be that no music existed before 1980, considering the large quantity of lame hard rock bands in the 70s, and the lack thereof of any music of the "Heavy" nature before 1970, however, that opinion is one that gets you the WRONG PLACES in a forum, especially a Prog Forum, so that was not the opinion I elected to joking state, mostly because it's surprisingly accurate, and just may get mistaken for my actual attitude.

These two would be my drastic opinions.
My actual opinion?
Well, lets just say before 1980, it gets pretty sparse in the territory of me liking it.
However, that, of course, does not mean music created before 1980 is not "Real", but it does mean that it is UNBEARABLE and probably should be eradicated from the earth. At least, to me Wink

In retrospect: Close to the Edge would be the sole exception that comes to mind for my "1980" rule of thumb, coming in at a measly 1972!
I mean, it is Prog and all, but that doesn't mean it can't still be good!
However, lets face it, in all honestly, even Judas Priest's 1978 Hell Bent For Leather was, at times, pretty lame.
I mean, sure, maybe it's actually pretty good, if you ignore the fact that "Delivering The Goods" is the best track, and that it seems like a early, lamer version of "Breaking the Law", with an annoying sexual theme, but lets face it, anything that came out before 1980 just didn't really have the quality standards that things did by at least 1984.

Consider the quantities of awesome things coming out by 1985!
Stryper's "Soldiers Under Command" (1985), Yngwie Malmsteen's Rising Force's "Marching Out" (1985), even Tony Carey's "Some Tough City" (1984), even if it was a little on the softer side.
Try to think of that many awesome albums before 1980.
For me, it's impossible.
As much as I want to say they aren't there, I'm sure there are some ultra-awesome Prog masterpieces, at least in some opinions, that came out before 1980.

But I guess what I'm saying is, for me, right now, thinking of anything all that great before 1980 (before 1981, really), is impossible.

Feel free to slam me with a bucketload of Prog albums that go over my head.

StaaVi



Are you the AntiWalter? i.e. a vengeful demon sent up from the fiery abyss to which he was condemned for serial trolling about the iniquities of music post 1989?
BTW That's a JOKE, I don't expect you to know who the infamous Walter was round these parts y'allWink



Edited by ExittheLemming - March 06 2014 at 07:29
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Look, it's 4:35 AM, I'm on my phone, in my bed, can we talk about this later, K?
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lol.

Iain is in Australia, I'm in England. It is not 4:35 for either of us. Tongue
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A new nutter, yay! Benign trolls always bring out the funniest posts from the humorous bunch here. For lack of a pop corn icon I'll have to bring out the beer one. Cheers!
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Here, take two



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Thumbs Up  Looking forward to the rest of the show. 
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I demand more StaaViinsZ. 
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I demand more StaaViinsZ. 
You need to visit your GP, they normally don't prescribe them to people your age unless your diet consists entirely of lard...
"You know what uranium is, right?
Itís this thing called nuclear weapons.
And other things.
Like lots of things are done with uranium.
Including some bad things.
But nobody talks about that."
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote StaaViinsZ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2014 at 14:06
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

lol.

Iain is in Australia, I'm in England. It is not 4:35 for either of us. Tongue


That explains why you're STILL ONLINE AFTER I'VE WOKEN UP!!
either that or you're some crazed maniac who decided to quit her job simply to be a "Professional Prog Archives Forumer", which, come on, you know it has to have happened before...

Originally posted by silverpot silverpot wrote:

A new nutter, yay! Benign trolls always bring out the funniest posts from the humorous bunch here. For lack of a pop corn icon I'll have to bring out the beer one. Cheers!


Nutter? What are you, British? Oh, my bad, SWEDISH.
I would make some potentially offensive joke about Sweden, however, considering many of my favorite bands (Golden Resurrection, Eclipse, Europe) are potentially from around that area, and that apparently all good Melodic Metal has apparently been banished to Sweden in recent years, I would betray myself with that remark.

Ha, this isn't a show for three users to watch silently-- LOL I guess it shows even though people aren't writing, it doesn't mean they aren't reading.
Weird cause this thread could have about 4 followers that are silent hawks waiting in the Great Wildebeast of Quiet-Forumness, simply to strike whenever someone says something outrageous like
"ALL PROG IS LOUSY!"*

*Please note, StaaViinsZ is exempt from all possible flame war repercussions that this, obviously, UNINTENDEDLY ATROCIOUS remark may or may not have upon this thread, other threads, private Admin discussion threads (should there be such a thing), or the rest of the forum in general, including possible discussions on other music forums.

Originally posted by silverpot silverpot wrote:

Looking forward to the rest of the show. 


Awkward...

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I demand more StaaViinsZ.


Does this mean they like my humor?

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

You need to visit your GP, they normally don't prescribe them to people your age unless your diet consists entirely of lard...


Well, no, not entirely, just mostly, with a large percentage of Bean Curd & Tofo thrown in.
As I always say, if you can't have fat, why not have something equally as nasty that they cut into cubes or strips?

Actually, forget lard, I going to start living off of scones-- THOSE THINGS ARE GOOD.

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Nope. Song-length is not a dictum of Prog. Power Metal is Power Metal, Prog Metal is Prog Metal. I've seen Gamma Ray live and they are Power Metal.


Okay, first of all, it's incredibly awesome that you've actually seen Gamma Ray live.
Once I get past the silver haze that fills my eyes after hearing that a woman (?) saw Gamma Ray, which basically totally rips my judgment and makes me think you're the most beautiful thing in the world, I actually have a few comments.

Well, NO, Song-Length is NOT a "Dictum" of Prog.
But would you be willing to admit that a 9 minute track with at least 2 mood changes could be SLIGHTLY PROGRESSIVELY INFLUENCED-- without actually being Prog?

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

So you're a reptile. Your deductive logic is impeccable.

Okay, so maybe I'm in the club of weird avatars-- but I was never compelled to stick a woman avatar in front of all my posts-- I mean, this is the face that goes with all your posts, it affects everything from the way people look at you to how they react to your comments. If I don't want people looking at me like I'm a girl-- why would I make my avatar a picture of one?

Also, though, on another note, if you are a woman, then why is your name "Dean", and why didn't you name yourself, at least for the forum, something like "Floriana" or "Jeanell181"?
These are the things that confuse me.

Originally posted by StaaViinsZ StaaViinsZ wrote:

WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON THIS THREAD!?!?



 
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Is that a rhetorical question?


The question was directed at me, so, yes, it wasn't intended for you to answer it, but by all means, if you feel you have the answer, feel free to spit out your chewing tobacco on your Yessongs record and tell it to me.

Originally posted by StaaViinsZ StaaViinsZ wrote:

Can I get a... A-OKAY WITH ME?

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

lol.


Oh, come on, I been trying to get a "A-Okay", a "Alright", maybe even a "AWWWW", but nobody does it.
It's like sticking your hand out there for a Fist Bump and getting denied... You just sit there staring sad-faced at the other person, and it irrevocably scars your mood for the next 10 minutes.

Originally posted by Exitthelemming Exitthelemming wrote:

Are you the AntiWalter? i.e. a vengeful demon sent up from the fiery abyss to which he was condemned for serial trolling about the iniquities of music post 1989?
BTW That's a JOKE, I don't expect you to know who the infamous Walter was round these parts y'allWink




By the way, can I ask why you type in like, CRAZY STUPID GIANT FONT, are you like, blind or something?

I mean, sure, I've been known to blurt out a inane comment at ALL CAPS on size 52 color red before, (Ask for example link to see one ) but what's up with this size 22 thing you have going on, 100% of the time?

And no, I don't know who "Walter" was.

But I can tell you that I'm no "Vengeful Demon" or even "Benign Troll"...
Well, maybe just a little "Benign Troll"-ISH, but for the most part I'm different from typical trolls.
I avoid saying any obscene comments and I try not to make rude personal remarks.

That said, even when I'm serious, I try to be funny, which, therefor, obtains me at least an HONORARY PLACE in the "Troll Dungeons Hall Of Fame", just because I was so influential in the development of later trolls.

Not saying I am a troll, but for pioneering my style of posting, at least an honorary status of Troll is expected.
(anybody getting the joke here from the "Classical Influence Prog" Thread?)

So, in closing, I wish peace to the Brothers of the Tree with which the Wind of the Willow Wisps nigh does shine down upon their hairy noggins.

Anybody who can figure out what that means, 3 stars to them.

StaaVi
 
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Can I have a pint of what you are on, please?ConfusedLOL


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Originally posted by Lazland Lazland wrote:

Can I have a pint of what you are on, please?ConfusedLOL


That would be a hearty pint of nothing, fair sir!
Either that or freebase crack.
Take your pick.


Edited by StaaViinsZ - March 06 2014 at 14:24
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What the hell have I wandered into here?
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^If I may quote Harry Potter?

TROLL IN THE DUNGEON!!! [FAINTS]
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Originally posted by StaaViinsZ StaaViinsZ wrote:

^If I may quote Harry Potter?

TROLL IN THE DUNGEON!!! [FAINTS]

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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I demand more StaaViinsZ. 
You need to visit your GP, they normally don't prescribe them to people your age unless your diet consists entirely of lard...
Then I'll be OK, but StaaViinsZ here is definitely not on statins... crystal meth seems to be more likely 
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I demand more StaaViinsZ. 
You need to visit your GP, they normally don't prescribe them to people your age unless your diet consists entirely of lard...
Then I'll be OK, but StaaViinsZ here is definitely not on statins... crystal meth seems to be more likely 
More probably tartrazine overdose. 

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Or Thorazine.
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Or Thorazine.

I'm thinking whatever he is on comes in suppository form; either that, or he has spent too much time looking for a melody line in a Yngwie Malmsteen song.
And your little sister's immaculate virginity wings away on the bony shoulders of a young horse named George who stole surreptitiously into her geography revision.
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Can I have a pint of what you are on, please?ConfusedLOL

I wish I could buy you a pint of your favorite, Steve!  I lean towards Murphy's Stout (a lesson I learned on the train from Exeter to London).
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