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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2013 at 23:04
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:


Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:



His proggy phase is like a cabaret.

I don't like a cabaret music, so I prefer his greatest hits - they are much better than that, aren't they?

 


Fortunately, it's not about what you like. Tongue
(...) It's rather amusing that we are on a purportedly progressive site and you're touting greatest hits packages.

Actually, we are on PA Proto Prog / Prog Related forum. As Dean pointed out - Prog Related IS NOT PROG. So, I did that freely to present with some YouTube samples that my claim that Mr  Bowie's timeless pop hits are much better because they're stronger expression than those cabaret-like song(s) you posted above (with a question adressed on me - 'is this pop', in the spirit of this poll I supposed) from his proggy atempts what was at the time also very fashionable -  nothing less fashionable and mainstreamy than this (...)


Conversely, I am completely disinterested in songs like "China Girl", even if Stevie Ray Vaughan played guitar on the album, and "Fame" was tedious even with John Lennon singing background. I never bought Bowie albums for "pop hits", and I'm quite sure most of the folks here more than likely share the same general view. For me, it was Bowie iconoclastic nature, not the most palatable pieces available for mass consumption.











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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2013 at 01:01
^^ Ok, that was pretty enough for PA' admins to add him as prog related act as well, but it doesn't mean that this high priest of pop music was mimicking that progressive rock enough for PA' Crossover section. So, when you're dreaming about your fav Mr Bowie's song as a progressive rock song, you would never forget what Dean pointed out:
Prog RELATED IS NOT PROG.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2013 at 01:17
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

^^ Ok, that was pretty enough for PA admins to add him as prog related act as well, but it doesn't mean that this fashionable pop artist was produced progressive rock enough for Crossover section. You would never forget what Dean pointed out:
Prog RELATED IS NOT PROG.
Your grasp of this concept appears to be limited and/or somewhat selective.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2013 at 01:22
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

^^ Ok, that was pretty enough for PA admins to add him as prog related act as well, but it doesn't mean that this fashionable pop artist was produced progressive rock enough for Crossover section. You would never forget what Dean pointed out: Prog RELATED IS NOT PROG.

Your grasp of this concept appears to be limited and/or somewhat selective.

I edited my previous post.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2013 at 01:25
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

I edited my previous post.
*shrug* makes no difference.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2013 at 01:44
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

I edited my previous post.

*shrug* makes no difference.
Of course not. I just edited.

Anyway, I can see very clear that the problem with "prog related" section is the problem of perception. Too many perceived "prog related" as a genre, although that section wasn't initialy conceived as such.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2013 at 23:47
Originally posted by The Mystical The Mystical wrote:

I consider "Heroes", "Low" and "Scary Monsters" prog. I also think that all of his 80s pop albums have strong prog influences.

^this.  And I would also add Lodger which features Adrian Belew on a few tracks.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2013 at 08:14
He has too many aficionados to be considered anything less than pivotal to developments  well  beyond his ken.
Black Sabbath are in the same hopelessly adrift  love boat.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2013 at 14:03
Listen to All the Madmen. Recorded I believe in 1970.  For that track ALONE, Bowie is progressive.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2013 at 16:23
Just like many prog rock artists he has prog albums, and others non prog. I like his versatility, which is a sign of open-mindedness and tolerance.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2013 at 11:59
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

I'd say No in general, Yes occasionally. Yet most of his work can be called Art Rock.

The most plausible opinion in the whle thread.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2013 at 16:49
What you really have to ask yourself is : Is David Bowie an alien spy?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2013 at 17:10

cue a cracking version of what I considered to be a so-so 80s bowie single

 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2013 at 22:29
^ That version bears more resemblance to The Cygnet Committee or The Wild Eyed Boy From Freecloud than any of his '80's stuff. Very nice.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2013 at 19:39
After a month and a half it's 22 to 12 that he's not prog.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2013 at 20:09
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

After a month and a half it's 22 to 12 that he's not prog.
 
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And as we know, the minority's usually right LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2013 at 20:38
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

After a month and a half it's 22 to 12 that he's not prog.
 
Wink


And as we know, the minority's usually right LOL
Eh?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2013 at 20:43
I couldn't care less whether he is Prog or not, I just wish there were more Bowie's on this planet.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2013 at 20:48
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

After a month and a half it's 22 to 12 that he's not prog.
 
Wink


And as we know, the minority's usually right LOL
Eh?


Okay, it's not enough to say the minority's usually right. (Clearly that's not the case.) Rather, I'll just say the majority's usually, for want of a better word, 'wrong'. Or, 'off'.

Or to quote Mark Twain: "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2013 at 22:37
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

After a month and a half it's 22 to 12 that he's not prog.
 
Wink


And as we know, the minority's usually right LOL
What planet are you living on...?
 
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