Atmospheric CO2 Hits High Milestone

While I strongly support environmental issues, there is also one problem which is not so easy to deal with.  And that is the fact that this planet was not meant to support 7+ billion humans on it.  And that number keeps growing at a geometric rate.  Overpopulation of the planet is the biggest environmental disaster and while there may not be much we can do about it, it won't be too long I fear before mother nature does something about it with environmental disasters, plague, famine and so forth to bring the human population back into balance with nature. 

I'm reminded of the early Floyd lyric "And if you survive to 2005, I hope you're exceedingly thin, for if you are stout, you will have to breathe out, while the people around you breathe in".


Edited by The Doctor - May 11 2013 at 14:26

Gamemako wrote: The Doctor wrote: And that is the fact that this planet was not meant to support 7+ billion humans on it. You need to re-think that statement. There are a lot more than 7 billion organisms on Earth. It's what people do that causes issues.

You mean like breathing?    I'm not discounting the factories, cars, etc, but breathing alone pumps a lot of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.  Not to mention that we use up resources faster than the rest of the organisms on the planet combined.  The planet may be able to support trillions of organisms, but not 7+ billion people.  I stand by my original statement.

^ amen, totally agree, this and our affluent way of life

^They are already being executed as we speak.

The Doctor wrote: While I strongly support environmental issues, there is also one problem which is not so easy to deal with.  And that is the fact that this planet was not meant to support 7+ billion humans on it.  And that number keeps growing at a geometric rate.  Overpopulation of the planet is the biggest environmental disaster and while there may not be much we can do about it, it won't be too long I fear before mother nature does something about it with environmental disasters, plague, famine and so forth to bring the human population back into balance with nature.  I'm reminded of the early Floyd lyric "And if you survive to 2005, I hope you're exceedingly thin, for if you are stout, you will have to breathe out, while the people around you breathe in".

Gamemako wrote: FLAC wrote: I agree but what can we do? Should we start adopting Friedrich Nietzsche's ideas.  It's Malthus Time.

Edited by FLAC - May 11 2013 at 15:46

FLAC wrote: Gamemako wrote: FLAC wrote: I agree but what can we do? Should we start adopting Friedrich Nietzsche's ideas.  It's Malthus Time. yea but that so called "philosophy" worked in the middle ages,where everyone died off plague,and they needed to have as much kids as possible (god's will) but still religion is to blame (mostly) because if it wasn't for that primitive  fairy tails women would be free to get abortions use pills to prevent pregnancy and man could use plastic bags for their ding dong. This would decrees the numbers a bit if everyone used it

This is happening.  Reproduction in most of the developed world is not meeting the replacement rate.

Gamemako wrote: FLAC wrote: yea but that so called "philosophy" worked in the middle ag es,where everyone died off plague,and they needed to have as much kids as possible (god's will)

Edited by FLAC - May 11 2013 at 16:06

What the hell are the other 5% doing?

The Doctor wrote: Gamemako wrote: The Doctor wrote: And that is the fact that this planet was not meant to support 7+ billion humans on it. You need to re-think that statement. There are a lot more than 7 billion organisms on Earth. It's what people do that causes issues. You mean like breathing?    I'm not discounting the factories, cars, etc, but breathing alone pumps a lot of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.  Not to mention that we use up resources faster than the rest of the organisms on the planet combined.  The planet may be able to support trillions of organisms, but not 7+ billion people.  I stand by my original statement.

Sure it can. It's just not quite made to be assaulted by human.