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Topic: really show-offy fusion Posted: May 11 2013 at 19:09
Can anybody recommend fusion where they abandon any subtlety or soul and instead just shove their talent in your face the way that death metal bands do?
Specifically I'm wanting to hear songs where the whole band does blindingly fast runs.
So basically just bad fusion - all chops and no sauce?
Nah I am just pulling your leg:-P
You may want to check out The Mahavishnu Orchestra, if you haven't yet heard them. I am certainly not their biggest fan, and that is actually down to the exact same thing that you seem attracted to. Try out Inner Mounting Flame and Birds of Fire for starters.
Hmmmm now I am not entirely sure what you are into, but if you are looking for insanely skilled musicians strutting their stuff, albeit in a wonderfully wild jungle way, then by all means go straight to the horse's mouth and take on Miles Davis - Bitches Brew, Weather Report - I Sing The Body Electric and Herbie Hancock - Sextant. This is however not music that revolves around melody as a lot of death metal does(let's face it, most death metal is incredibly melodic - even when it's at its most evil and technical) - this is rather freely flowing groove fusion with loads of improv up the wazoo.
Edited by Guldbamsen - May 11 2013 at 19:38
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Posted: May 11 2013 at 21:34
You might try Liquid Tension Experiment...they are called progressive metal but to me they have strong jazz rock fusion chops.and they can really cook at times.
Return To Forever can really get going also as well as Mahavishnu as the earlier poster mentioned.
You might try Liquid Tension Experiment...they are called progressive metal but to me they have strong jazz rock fusion chops.and they can really cook at times.
Return To Forever can really get going also as well as Mahavishnu as the earlier poster mentioned.
Actually. This is a perfect reccomendation. Liquid Trio Experiment could be another, not Mahavishnu Orchestra. Sorry Goldbamsen, you'll blow his head off with that rec. lol you gotta be in a special mood for say 'Birds of Fire.'
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Posted: May 11 2013 at 22:02
Everyone: thanks for your suggestions!
I will check out black utopia, brainstorm, and various liquid experiments!
To everyone who said "Mahavishnu" - good call! : their song Vital Transformation (from Inner Mounting Flame) is exactly what I'd like to hear more of. ALso: The Magician, which is a super fast, everyone-playing-in-unison song from Return To Forever's album Romantic Warrior.
So maybe I should have said: Can anyone recommend songs like Vital Transformation or The Magician?
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Posted: May 11 2013 at 22:06
progbethyname wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
You might try Liquid Tension Experiment...they are called progressive metal but to me they have strong jazz rock fusion chops.and they can really cook at times.
Return To Forever can really get going also as well as Mahavishnu as the earlier poster mentioned.
Actually. This is a perfect reccomendation. Liquid Trio Experiment could be another, not Mahavishnu Orchestra. Sorry Goldbamsen, you'll blow his head off with that rec. lol you gotta be in a special mood for say 'Birds of Fire.'
Nah...he could handle Birds Of Fire...there are some slower bits on it.
btw I was lucky enough to see them in Chicago in 1974 or 75..can't recall the exact year. Blame it on my age.
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Posted: May 12 2013 at 00:21
I think what the OP is looking for is the band Tribal Tech, and maybe some of Scott Henderson's solo stuff. Tribal Tech is the kind of band where everyone is usually firing on all cylinders, and it's good fusion. I recommend Face First, Illicit, or their newest one "X", also their debut s/t is very good.
Also, check out Bela Fleck & The Flecktones, they all have incredible chops, they're very flashy, not to mention mix up styles a lot, and of course, Victor Wooten is one of the great bassists to ever live. Check out Three Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Live Art, and Outbound (which has a couple of tracks featuring Jon Anderson from Yes)
A serious "show-offy" fusion album (but good) is Greg Howe's "Extraction" album, with Victor Wooten and Dennis Chambers. That's some serious fusion right there!!!
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Posted: May 12 2013 at 01:07
Wow, I really should check out Tribaltech then, heard about Henderson, obviously. And I already love Bela Fleck & the Flecktones. I just hope TT aren't too much on the metal side of fusion, I prefer less 'noisy' drums in fusion (not to say, less busy) a la Cobham, Collins, Gadd, Lenny White, etc.
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Posted: May 12 2013 at 16:49
darkshade wrote:
Also, check out Bela Fleck & The Flecktones, they all have incredible chops, they're very flashy, not to mention mix up styles a lot, and of course, Victor Wooten is one of the great bassists to ever live. Check out Three Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Live Art, and Outbound (which has a couple of tracks featuring Jon Anderson from Yes)
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Posted: May 13 2013 at 18:45
tokyoganglion wrote:
Can anybody recommend fusion where they abandon any subtlety or soul and instead just shove their talent in your face the way that death metal bands do?
Specifically I'm wanting to hear songs where the whole band does blindingly fast runs.
Planet X (and Derek Sherinian solo) and Liquid Tension Experiment.
While they've soul and style to spare, Niacin is another band for you to check out, especially the last three albums (newest first), Krush, Organik and Time Crunch. Lots of breakneck passages. You can't go wrong with a bass guitar wiz like Billy Sheehan.
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Posted: May 13 2013 at 19:00
@tapfret: that is a really good call with the Hiromi Uehara! I was at
my local Prog bar and asked the owner pretty much what I asked you guys,
and Uehara was his immediate response.
@all: thanks for all
the suggestions as always. What I learned is basically this: I don't
like fusion after the '70s. I need moogs and perididdles and horn
shredding. Although I do like certain modern bands like Niacin, most
contemporary fusion sounds like a late-night talk show house band to me.
@presdoug: thanks for mentioning Dedalus! They were nice!
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