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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tokyoganglion Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2013 at 22:20
@josh:  I love Brand X, but what is "music for music"?

@tapfret:  thanks, that mats\morgan is nice. .  . I love the high speed, the drummer and the wonderful sort of Rain Man-ish keyboard player.  I just wish there was more heads and less solos. 

As for the prog bar, sadly it went out of business. There is another prog bar though, mostly specializing in Hammond organ music.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote darkshade Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2013 at 23:04
Here's another one you may want to check out immediately

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cstack3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2013 at 23:21
hmmm....I was going to suggest Brand X, but they've been covered (try "Masques"!)

How about this? 


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Originally posted by tokyoganglion tokyoganglion wrote:

@josh:  I love Brand X, but what is "music for music"?
I think he meant "music for music's own sake".
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Trioscapes..bass,drums and sax.Awesome stuff.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sleeper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2013 at 08:16
Billy Cobham's Spectrum might be a good one as well.
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the debut album by Back Door
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I can't believe nobody yet has mentioned French band Syrinx, or maybe I can, but I am still outraged!!!!!
Their second album Qualia is beyond complex, but somehow it works. Hmmmm I guess you can say the same thing bout the debut too, it's just that I imagine the op's taste lean towards the metallic side of things. Still you won't find a lot of heavy metal guitars, the heaviness comes from Chapman stick, drums and iron like acoustic guitars, that sound like barbed wire vibrating.
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Also Jean-Louis.
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Thanks again everyone! That  Alan Holdsworth "SAHARA OF SNOW" song is pretty much exactly what i wanted!
I 'll also check out the syrinx.

I was listening to the first album of CHICK COREA'S ELEKTRIC BAND, which has a very unusual sound. Like there's 3 or 4 layers of drums and it's impossible for me to tell what is drum machine, what is MIDI triggers, and what is real drums which are somehow processed to sound fake.  It's very 80s, but also deeply weird.  I'd love to mute all the melodies and just explore the percussion on that album . . . .but i want to do that to EVERY album.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cstack3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2013 at 23:09
Originally posted by tokyoganglion tokyoganglion wrote:

Thanks again everyone! That  Alan Holdsworth "SAHARA OF SNOW" song is pretty much exactly what i wanted!
I 'll also check out the syrinx.

I was listening to the first album of CHICK COREA'S ELEKTRIC BAND, which has a very unusual sound. Like there's 3 or 4 layers of drums and it's impossible for me to tell what is drum machine, what is MIDI triggers, and what is real drums which are somehow processed to sound fake.  It's very 80s, but also deeply weird.  I'd love to mute all the melodies and just explore the percussion on that album . . . .but i want to do that to EVERY album.

I suggest going backwards in time & checking out the early to mid-1970's Return To Forever albums!  My favorite of the bunch is "Where Have I Known You Before?"  Check this out, these young geniuses were at the top of their games!


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gerinski Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2013 at 03:31
If you like guitar oriented fusion, crank this up and enjoy!  Mr. Petrucci please see, there's more than sheer speed to great playing.


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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Also Jean-Louis.


I never really interpreted them as "show-offy," just always seems like they are having too much fun.  Great band, though.
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I tend to agree, but they're still insanely complex. Some people interpret that as show-offyTongue
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cstack3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2013 at 14:25
"Show-offy" is a great description!  Certain artists were in love with themselves and their image, and it showed in their recordings and concerts. 

I always considered Al Dimeola to be one of the most guilty, his "Elegant Gypsy" days were especially egregious!   Damn good music and some of the best guitar work I ever saw or heard, but, uh, he was a bit "in love" with himself. 



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote King Crimson776 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2013 at 15:05
IMO, Allan Holdsworth is not really that show-offy. It's almost like calling John Coltrane show-offy (not that bad, but still). He just has tons of musical ideas.

But yes, his music has a very inhuman feel, with almost no traditional emotion. I would recommend getting heavily into him. Also check the band U.K., and Soft Machine's "Bundles".
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You're going to want to check out The Aristocrats. Just listened to the debut today, absolutely incredible. You got Guthrie Govan, Marco Minneman and Bryan Beller. And I mean, these guys rips, like virtuosos. Some of the best Instrumental/ Fusion I've heard in a while. Fusion done well. Thumbs Up
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I was searching for something by Steve Morse & the Dixie Dregs, and THIS is really over the top!!  

Good heavens, prog on "American Bandstand" with Dick Clark??


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Czeslaw Niemen. More songwriting based w**kery?




This is more show-offy in polyrhythm.


I know this isn't really considered jazz/fusion... but I always consider to be jazz.

(Same drummer as Zevious. Damn he's good.)


Hope I wasn't a complete not help on this. :D
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