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Retrovertigo
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Topic: The Residents are now on the archives. Posted: August 01 2005 at 13:23 |
Post-punk means bands who after 1977 took the raw sound of punk and
mixed it with experimentation. The fact that The Residents are
one of the bands who spawned punk (The Residents' Satisfaction single
predates punk and has the style) is probably why they're listed under
that. However The Residents supposedly haven't listened to any
other music since the early 1970's so any influence of punk is
non-existent.
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The Hemulen
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 12:27 |
ivan_2068 wrote:
(Proggish with Post Punk main influence) |
How can they be post punk influenced if they predate punk by about a decade?!
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 04:48 |
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I thought you liked Genesis as well?
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 03:32 |
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 03:31 |
BaldJean wrote:
you'd be surprised, I like Genesis AND the Residents. my prog taste is very eclectic. my taste tends towards bands with a weirder or rougher edge than Genesis, but they certainly have their moments. and I can't forget I grew up listening to them, because my parents did. so yes, it is a feeling of nostalgia, in a way. being born at the end of the 60s, at the beginning of prog, and in SF too, as a kid of two hippies, and growing up among bead curtains, incense sticks and other sweet smokes, love-ins and lots of psychedelic and progressive rock is quite educational |
wow BaldJean likes Genesis......never saw that coming in a million years
good for you
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BaldJean
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 02:14 |
you'd be surprised, I like Genesis AND the Residents. my prog taste is very eclectic. my taste tends towards bands with a weirder or rougher edge than Genesis, but they certainly have their moments. and I can't forget I grew up listening to them, because my parents did. so yes, it is a feeling of nostalgia, in a way. being born at the end of the 60s, at the beginning of prog, and in SF too, as a kid of two hippies, and growing up among bead curtains, incense sticks and other sweet smokes, love-ins and lots of psychedelic and progressive rock is quite educational
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 02:04 |
Well, I'm digging, or not?
In my case is different, I worked on a radio some years ago and was exposed to various kind of music and very unknown artists who send their material (Well the label sends the material to be honest), so I like to dig sometimes.
Casually a friend who still works there is a Residents lunatic (I remember he usedto drive me crazy), so I called him after reading Baldie's post and of course sent me a copy in a few hours.
Iván
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Retrovertigo
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 01:57 |
I didn't expect a Genesis fan to really dig them anyways.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 01:47 |
BaldJean wrote:
the Residents are an avantgarde band, and there is an avantgarde section in the archives. they rightfully belong there. the meaning of "progressive" would become very shallow if we couldn't include artists like the Residents, IMHO. "Eskimo" is my favorite album of them. what a great hoax! |
I have to admit the inclusion of The Residents is correct if the requiremet is having at least one 100% Prog' album, it was my mistake judging a band without listening all their albums.
Just a few minutes ago I finished listening a copy of Eskimo a friend who works still in a radio gave me, and even when I still find the Punk and/or Post Punk influences and I don't like the album at all, it's a Progressive release IMHO.
I don't change my opinion about the rest of the material I heard (Proggish with Post Punk main influence), but this album justifies their inclusion.
Iván
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BaldJean
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 00:22 |
the Residents are an avantgarde band, and there is an avantgarde section in the archives. they rightfully belong there. the meaning of "progressive" would become very shallow if we couldn't include artists like the Residents, IMHO. "Eskimo" is my favorite album of them. what a great hoax!
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Posted: July 31 2005 at 19:02 |
Great addition - to quote no less an authority than myself, if Faust had come from Louisiana this is what they'd have sounded like.
There is a RIO connection - Chris Cutler of Henry Cow was the first to write about them in the UK music press and I think Recommended Records were the first to distribute their music in the UK. He and Fred Frith also played on some of their releases, such as Commercial Album. Having caid that, classifying them is almost impossible - post punk was when they took off, but they were doing their thing several years before punk started. I was lucky enough to catch their 13th anniversary show at The Hacienda - one of the strangest and most memorable gigs I've ever seen.
I'll probably submit a review or two myself, if I get time.
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Posted: July 31 2005 at 18:52 |
Seyo wrote:
ivan_2068 wrote:
Trouserpress wrote: <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" bgColor=#999999> <T> <TR> <TD> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" bgColor=#ffffff> <T> <TR> <TD =text>Oh, not happy with the classification though. RIO/Avant-Prog would surely be more appropriate? </TD></TR></T></TABLE></TD>< ; ; ;/TR></T></TABLE>
Why don't you try Post Punk, would be more exact. Not every weird band is necesarilly Prog.
Iván
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They have nothing to do with post-punk, they were contemporaries of FAUST and early 70s avantgarde! |
They started in the 70's, but they are still playing and since Assorted Secrets, they have a clear Post Punk Sound.
I admit they are closer to Prog' (especially during their first albums) than Queen and far more experimental, but still not sure they belong here.
Iván
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Posted: July 31 2005 at 14:52 |
greenback wrote:
i have just discover the residents! man! this is
very strange music! it has a mix of Yello, Japan, devil dolls with very
litle beat. icky flix is very SCARY!
i think it sounds like a dead post goth music! |
Yet it pre-dates the lot.
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Posted: July 31 2005 at 14:51 |
i have just discover the residents! man! this is very strange music! it has a mix of Yello, Japan, devil dolls with very litle beat. icky flix is very SCARY!
i think it sounds like a dead post goth/post new wave music!
i like the "demons dance alone" album though!
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[HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!>
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Retrovertigo
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Posted: July 31 2005 at 13:28 |
Well if it's 3 to 5, then I will pick 5!
- Hitler Was a Vegetarian / 1976 / Third Reich & Roll
- Hello Skinny / 1978 / Duck Stab
- The Festival of Death / 1979 / Eskimo
- Smack Your Lips (Clap Your Teeth) / 1982 / The Tunes of New Cities
- God's Magic Finger / 1998 / Wormwood: Curious Stories From the Bible
I was really tempted to add Cry for the Fire from the 13th Anniversary Show and something from the new Animal Lover, but those are good I guess.
I'm not home so I can't add them yet. Max, you should implement a direct mp3 add for collaborators.
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Posted: July 31 2005 at 13:23 |
Retrovertigo wrote:
I have plenty of mp3's Max, I'd like to submit a decent number for people to start The Residents with, how many can I submit?
| Hey Retro, if you need assistance I also have several songs in mp3! I would suggest you to upload some of not too weird stuff as a good introduction to people who never heard anything. I would pick some tracks from "Commercial Album" (easy upload since they are short), "Eskimo", "Duck Stab" (my personal fav song "Blue Rosebuds") and maybe "Meet the Residents".
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AngelRat
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Posted: July 31 2005 at 12:45 |
Great to have them in the archives.
As for mp3's, I think at least one song from 'Eskimo' has to be added. 'Festival Of Death' maybe?
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The Hemulen
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Posted: July 31 2005 at 12:17 |
That's not very many, considering bands like KC, GG and Yes have upwards of 5 and the Resident's discography is HUGE. But hey, I'm not gonna bite the hand that feeds me.
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Posted: July 31 2005 at 12:13 |
3 to 5
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Prog On !
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Retrovertigo
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Posted: July 31 2005 at 09:42 |
I have plenty of mp3's Max, I'd like to submit a decent number for people to start The Residents with, how many can I submit?
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