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    Posted: August 17 2017 at 12:34
About 20 years ago I was in a hotel in Switzerland, relaxing in the room, when I started hearing this music outside. It was a guy with an Alpenhorn, stood on a mound of grass about 15 feet high, with the horn reaching to the bottom.
What was amazing was he wasn't just playing bass tones, he played high, almost like a trumpet. Fast too - he was playing something from the classical trumpet repertoire, I forget what now.
As a trumpet player myself, I wanted one, but for some reason my wife wasn't keen! Would have been great for prog though
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2017 at 20:35
No love for the theremin?


Also check out this guy's instruments, the Marble Machine and the Modulin:


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2017 at 08:09
Sorry to resurrect this thread: just did a sax solo for a friend. He needed something for a track on his album.

Trouble was, the tune was in E minor. Nasty key for a tenor or alto. So I got out my 1926 Elkhart (made by Buescher) C melody sax. Basically, a sax pitched in C. No transposition. 

C Mels are a rare sight in the UK. Back during the saxophone craze of the 1920's, sax manufacturers started making instruments which would play along with a guitar or piano without transposition. The Wall Street Crash ended the sax craze, and production of c melody saxes stopped around 1930.

Theoretically, the C mel should have had the upper lyricism of an alto sax and the boom of a tenor, but it didn't. It had a tone all of its' own. Old mouthpieces and hard reeds made them sound "stuffy", but there are ways and means of making them sound a lot better. 

In the late 90's, modern firms such as Aquilasax realised there was a market for the old "C tenor" and a few manufacturers jumped on the bandwaggon again - you can get modern c mels now. They're pretty rare. I can't stand modern saxes, no character. So I'll be sticking with my 91 year old Elkhart. Really nice looking sax, plays like a dream. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2017 at 08:22
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2017 at 07:41
Yep, they sold their soul to Beelzebub and Rico reeds. ;-)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2017 at 07:20
Originally posted by Davesax1965 Davesax1965 wrote:

Fantastic. I had a baritone for a short while - which I regret selling. Bb Sioma Paris, made about 1935, Otto Link metal mouthpiece. Fantastic to play. They're actually one of the easier members of the sax family to play. Soprano is by far the most difficult due to the embouchere. I also have problems with them sliding out of my fat hands. 


Nice. I do love the sound of the baritone. Pepper Adams was great on that horn.

Not a sax player myself but I always heard it was very hard to get a consistently good tone on soprano.

Coltrane and Wayne Shorter always seemed to manage OK though.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2017 at 07:07
Also worthy of mention here are Yoch'ko Seffer's sound sculptures, which are played on some of his solo albums:

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2017 at 06:57
Fantastic. I had a baritone for a short while - which I regret selling. Bb Sioma Paris, made about 1935, Otto Link metal mouthpiece. Fantastic to play. They're actually one of the easier members of the sax family to play. Soprano is by far the most difficult due to the embouchere. I also have problems with them sliding out of my fat hands. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2017 at 06:44
^^^^ I have witnessed Count Stakula playing the mighty Tubax at an Alamaailman Vasarat gig and it was awesome. The only other unusual instrument deployed that night was the theremin.

For sheer vibration though it's hard to beat Tokyo Chutei Iki, a band consisting of thirteen Japanese guys who ALL play baritone sax. First time I saw them was in quite a small room, and when those thirteen saxes hit a riff in unison I could feel it with my whole body.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2017 at 06:31
And let's go lower. 

This is unbelievable. Adolph sax designed, but never made one of these..... the J'elle Stainer sub-contrabass sax.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2017 at 06:28
Eb contrabass... yep, no fake.... 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2017 at 06:27
PS This takes some believing, but.... well, I'll have a Tubax and an Eb contrabass sax, please. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2017 at 06:25
Thanks for starting the thread, Guldbamsen. 

I'm a huge fan of unusual instruments. From Jazzophones - double belled trumpets - to Benedikt Eppelsheim's Tubax (look it up, scary) - to exotic Afghan rababs.... great. 

Here's my current absolute favourite - the Vegetable Orchestra. Anyone for broccoli ???



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 18 2017 at 22:09
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2017 at 13:39
A bit of a bump just because I saw a Faust vid where they were playing power tools on stage. Also it'd be interesting to hear what kind of strange and bizarre instruments members of PA know of/play (perchance?).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2013 at 22:20
Someone had to post this one sooner or later:

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2013 at 07:38
Thanks for the linkThumbs Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2013 at 07:35
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

 

Nice, thanks GerardSmile

and sorry for stealing your mojo man - I didn't realize you already had a blog covering strange instrumentsEmbarrassed
No worries, my blog is about instruments frequently used in prog in general, not particularly strange ones, so this thread still makes perfect sense Tongue




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2013 at 05:39
I think I've found Jon Anderson's replacement in Yes. Take a look at this highly spirited guy from Namibia:


And then there's this, which I can't quite explain. Kuala Lumpur airport obviously keeps it pretty fresh in regards to gigs:

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2013 at 03:39
Ever wish you could play the whale?

Look no further - the hydrocordion makes your dreams come true:

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