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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gerinski Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 10:34
Simon Says Tardigrade has also a sci-fi concept. Great album btw.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Aussie-Byrd-Brother Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 10:43
When I think of sci-fi prog, the first artist I personally think of is electronic guru Adelbert von Deyen, who's early work means so much to me, check out his first five album covers:





Beautiful, hypnotic and icy electronic sci-fi soundscapes, please look into them (but stay away from the `Eclipse' album, bit of a dud that one, as much as it pains me to say!)



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote questionsneverknown Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 10:51
Here are a variety of examples that instantly pop in my head:

1) As already noted, Rush's 2112, which, alongside "Anthem," is partly grounded in Rand's science-fiction work called Anthem.  Apparently Peart was, at the time, also loosely inspired by works like Samuel Delany's Babel-17.  More recently though, Peart collaborated with science-fiction author Kevin J. Anderson for Clockwork Angels (with the latter writing a full novel built on that album's premise).
2) Frank Zappa references his love for z-grade sci-fi films in "Cheepnis" and "The Radio is Broken."  A particular love seems to have been Zontar, Thing from Venus. 
3) The band Astra reference Brian Aldiss with their song "Barefoot in the Head."
4) Magma's entire body of work strikes me as an epic act of alternate world building.
5) Wigwam's Being is a pretty amazing work that dialectically bounces around utopias and dystopias.
6) ELP's Tarkus, perhaps?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snow Dog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 10:54
I like SF and I like Prog. I don't necessarily want them together though;.
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the Dr Who theme is proggish, and was quoted by Pink Floyd for years.

Coheed & Cambria's entire career is one huge Sci-Fi epic.

Queensryche's Operation Mindcrime, and lots by Alan Parsons Project, Hawkwind, Nektar & Muse


and this:



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I found prog with Tarkus cover. An armadillo-mecha. This is so prog sci-fi.
Take a look at Nocturnus (tech/extreme prog) album covers. Cool.
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Originally posted by Matti Matti wrote:

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HAWKWIND collaborating with Michael Moorcock, Warrior on the Edge of Time.
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Michael Moorcock was involved as far back as "In Search of Space" is my understanding.
 
Space Ritual would fit, in subject matter, though some songs tend to be about sic-fi comic book heroes in my stupid understanding of these things. (Master of the Universe and such)
 
Klaus Schulze ... and his original music for the film DUNE was not used, and he released it as an album himself. The film could have used his material on it, to add depth to a superficial, cartoonish story and vision of the whole thing. But without the effects like today, what they did then was harder ... but they could have made use of video better to do some of the things they did!
 
Klaus Schulze ... Cyborg ... however I can not tell you the connection.
 
... and many other albums of his as well, have had names and mentions for inspiration ...
 
(I'll add more as time goes by after I look at my collection ... many many missing here!)


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Klaus Schulze's Dune was released long before the movie and wasn't good for a soundtrack even if it's an excellent album (and my first Schulze purchase)
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Nick Magnus - Inhaling Green, is oft overlooked

Tarkus was part organic and part machine which links in nicely with H R Giger who did the artwork for Brain Salad Surgery and later brought the part organic part machine Alien to life (based on two of his paintings that Ridley Scott liked apparently)
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Michael Moorcock had also his own band: Michael Moorcock and Deep Fix, space rock but more rock than space, lighter than Hawkwind but not too bad.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote stegor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 14:58
An all-time favorite is FM's Black Noise, not really a concept album but full of sci-fi concepts. The opener is even called "Phasors on Stun", even though it has nothing to do with Star Trek. A lot of it has a Star Trek attitude though, sort of tongue in cheek and sometimes a bit corny.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Second Life Syndrome Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 14:58
Originally posted by bonestorm bonestorm wrote:

Great review Jason!  I checked a film clip for "Not Coming Down" on Youtube and he sure looks like his old man.  Might be my imagination but he sounds a bit like him too.
Thanks!  He really sounds like Phil, especially on the softer end.  He also has the same balding pattern LOL.
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Not sure if everyone realizes this, but certain people, and I think they are right, make
a big distinction between the terms "science fiction" and "fantasy."  I think this is a general
bookseller distinction, probably used also in film.  Fantasy could include mythology,
and usually doesn't have futuristic themes, often antiquated surroundings.  On some
level, the words can all mean the same thing, in practice, there is a practical distinction
used in different industries.  
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Klaus Schulze's Dune was released long before the movie and wasn't good for a soundtrack even if it's an excellent album (and my first Schulze purchase)

When Alejandro Jodorowsky was planning his film of Dune in the 1970s (with Orson Welles as the Baron Harkonnen, Salvador Dali as the Emperor, and Moebius and Giger doing the art design) he said he wanted the music to be done by Pink Floyd and Magma (and Henry Cow, I think).  That may just have been ambition--who knows how far it got in the planning.
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Agree with Stool Man, Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds is a classic and very much a favourite from my youth.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cstack3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 17:14
Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

21 century schizoid man, may qualify as some sort of Horror Si-Fi

Absolutely!  Bob Fripp seemed to embrace sci-fi throughout his career, particularly the dark, Harlan Ellison "Dangerous Visions" type of apocalyptic future! 

I thought "Epitaph" was a nice, dark little look into the future....

This cover art for "The Power To Believe" really raises the bar in terms of dark foreboding future visions!  Great job, Bob!! 


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I was obsessed with Jeff Wayne's WotW when I was younger.  H.G. Wells is my favorite author, after all.
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Some here might also be curious to know that J. G. Ballard spoke/read at the Phun City rock festival in 1970, Ecclesden Common near Worthing in Sussex.  Also on the bill were the Pretty Things, Mighty Baby, Kevin Ayers, MC5, Pink Fairies, Edgar Broughton Band, Mungo Jerry and many others.

I think of Ballard as having some effect on Hawkwind (largely because of the Moorcock connection), but his influence was probably much bigger on post-punk music than on prog.
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The music is more on the funky avant-garde jazz side of things, but I think this qualifies. Love the film.
 
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Originally posted by stegor stegor wrote:

An all-time favorite is FM's Black Noise, not really a concept album but full of sci-fi concepts. The opener is even called "Phasors on Stun", even though it has nothing to do with Star Trek. A lot of it has a Star Trek attitude though, sort of tongue in cheek and sometimes a bit corny.

That is a GREAT album! Lots of (slightly cheesy?!) sci-fi synths all over it! I just bought the new CD reissue, anxiously awaiting it to show up at the door any day now!
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