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admireArt 
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 Posted: June 26 2013 at 20:56 |
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Those who ignore the past; will repeat it and call it their own. Time is an "un-erraseable" issue!
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moshkito
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Posted: May 29 2013 at 14:07 |
 SquonkHunter wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
lazland wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
I'm sure Stairway is from before '74 |
1970 wasn't it? (From pure memory) |
Or '71 maybe.  |
For the record: Stairway to Heaven was released
8 November, 1971.
The recording year can give the listener the context in which the recording was made. What may sound dull or derivative today could sound very original and fresh years ago. IOW, was it a trend setter or follower?
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I put in the incorrect date on purpose! It was just like a puddle that you all were going to step in ... and for my next trick I'm going to get a big tub, fill it up with ____________ and then put money in it, and play "Something is in the Air" out loud ... for all the folks here! This way, at least, we can have a laugh and get the point .... go get that money you fool!
Edited by moshkito - May 29 2013 at 14:08
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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moshkito
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Posted: May 29 2013 at 14:05 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
Maybe if it's a historic album, and it isn't made in 29, because 29 simply isn't 63 - like 88 isn't 72, and if it's on a tuesday, because then I only listen to 79s and 81s perhaps 36. It's all about the numbers. 68.
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Thanks ... yep! I like random-ness in my listening habits! Btw, numbers upside down also works great!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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SquonkHunter
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Posted: May 29 2013 at 11:13 |
Snow Dog wrote:
lazland wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
I'm sure Stairway is from before '74 |
1970 wasn't it? (From pure memory) |
Or '71 maybe. |
For the record: Stairway to Heaven was released
8 November, 1971. The recording year can give the listener the context in which the recording was made. What may sound dull or derivative today could sound very original and fresh years ago. IOW, was it a trend setter or follower?
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"You never had the things you thought you should have had and you'll not get them now..."
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tamijo
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Posted: May 29 2013 at 11:02 |
Im getting more and more into everything sweet, not the healthiest development. But actually I just love lakrids in every shape and form.
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: May 29 2013 at 06:44 |
Lakridspiber are made of false lakrids! Lakrids needs to be strong and hot. I hate the sweet stuff - tastes oddly castrated.
Sorry, I know these things are the bee's knees here in DK, and I do really like the looks of em, I've just never been able to enjoy em  |
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
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tamijo
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Posted: May 29 2013 at 06:39 |
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Lakridspiber that is the thing, and with an important historical hint too.
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: May 29 2013 at 06:38 |
No you ninja'd me there!
Edited by Guldbamsen - May 29 2013 at 06:39
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: May 29 2013 at 06:37 |
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I thought about re-quoting your post, but then again we all can't run around and eat gummy bears. Some of us has to go for the liquorice.
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
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tamijo
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Posted: May 29 2013 at 06:34 |
(smart ass  )
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: May 29 2013 at 06:11 |
Maybe if it's a historic album, and it isn't made in 29, because 29 simply isn't 63 - like 88 isn't 72, and if it's on a tuesday, because then I only listen to 79s and 81s perhaps 36. It's all about the numbers. 68.
59 84 76 11 708 9112
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
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tamijo
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Posted: May 29 2013 at 06:06 |
freyacat wrote:
That's a good question, and yes, I do think the year matters!
1. The year helps me evaluate how innovative the music is compared to what was being made at the time, and what had gone before. Is this the first time someone ever composed a 22-minute rock song, or did others do it first? Is that melody being played like that because only monophonic synthesizers are available at that time?
2. The year helps me better place the instrumentation and melodic vocabulary. Actually, based on keyboard sounds alone, I can usually guess the year of a recording.
3. The year places the album in Socio-Politcal context. Vietnam, Watergate, The Iranian Revolution, Star Wars, Reagan, and the advent of the personal computer all had wide-reaching cultural effects which shaped music. When Yes composes "The Gates of Delerium," an epic about war, what experiences lay behind the music?
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Gerinski
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Posted: May 29 2013 at 05:34 |
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It's very important in order to appreciate the work but generally speaking it does not make me like the music any more or less, except for some cases like blatant plagiarisms from a previous work.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: May 29 2013 at 02:05 |
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I log in by recorded year over release year if I have that information.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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A B Negative
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Posted: May 29 2013 at 01:54 |
I love recordings made from 1969 to 1970. The recording techniques (smaller multitrack recorders possibly means an emphasis on live takes rather than lots of overdubs) and instrumentation (organs, Mellotrons and earlier synths) are pleasing to my ear.
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"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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Barbu
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 23:13 |
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Sure.
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progbethyname
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 22:52 |
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For me the recording year doesn't difinitively mater to me a lot, but it is important to know. I feel that the timeline should be evident to you with Reagards to a bands yearly markings if you want to keep track of how a band has progressed over the years, and to have an understanding of what sound they were trying to embody because of the year they were in. For instance, 1996 was a big grunge year for music and some bands...even progressive took from the influencial movement of 1996. The 1980's was a time of synth pop and Genesis attached themselves a bit to that movement.
All in all. It's not a necessity to know, but it's good to know. :)
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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smartpatrol
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 22:18 |
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Yeah. Mainly, for me, it's to put it in context of the band's history. For example, if I didn't know that Abbey Road was recorded after Let it Be, then I'd see Let it Be as a very sad farewell from the Beatles, as, as great as the songs are, it still sounds like they had a sh*t time making it, whereas Abbey Road makes a very cheery ending to the Beatles saga, sense not only is it an amazing album, it's also very cheery and stuff.
Edited by smartpatrol - May 28 2013 at 22:20
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King Crimson776
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 21:56 |
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It simply could not have been made in 2001.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 20:59 |
It doesn't matter to the overall quality of the music or how I enjoy it but it is critical to understanding what else was going on at the time, what the available technology was (I'll cut a band a lot of slack if they were using the best equipment available), how it fits into the developmental arc of the bands sound, adding a bit of perspective.
I'm sure that ITCOTCK would not rate as highly as it does if it had been recorded in 2001 compared to 1969.
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