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    Posted: June 13 2013 at 07:38
Originally posted by chopper

"math rock frequently uses asymmetrical time signatures such as 7/8, 11/8, or 13/8, or features constantly changing meters based on various groupings of 2 and 3. "
 
So Supper's Ready is math rock then?

No it isn't  noisy  enough or distorted enough  so is less "mathematical"
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Originally posted by chopper

Originally posted by Svetonio

Originally posted by The Dark Elf

"Los Endos" makes perfect sense as a closing track. If it were at the start it would "Los Beginningos".


Los Endos is one of the greatest Symphonic Prog instrumentals I ever heard.


It's not an instrumental, it has singing on it.

Yea, few seconds just like some echoes make it a vocaly track   

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Originally posted by Snow Dog


Originally posted by chopper

Originally posted by Svetonio

Those phenomenons as "ghosts", UFO, SHC, oceans' "monsters" and so on, really exists, but the Science can not explain such things yet.
 

 

Can you back up that statement with evidence?

Of course he can't.

There is a lot of evidences that a number od phenomenas exists, but the Science is not able to explain what is that yet. For example, SHC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_human_combustion

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Originally posted by Svetonio

Originally posted by Snow Dog


Originally posted by chopper

Originally posted by Svetonio

Those phenomenons as "ghosts", UFO, SHC, oceans' "monsters" and so on, really exists, but the Science can not explain such things yet.
 

 

Can you back up that statement with evidence?

Of course he can't.

There is a lot of evidences that a number od phenomenas exists, but the Science is not able to explain what is that yet. For example, SHC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_human_combustion
I'm quite prepared to believe in SHC as it's an observed phenomena but one we haven't found a definitive scientific explanation for, however ghosts and UFOs are a different thing and generally explainable e.g. the guy who reported he must have been abducted by aliens as his watch was an hour slow so he must have lost an hour of his life, also he'd seen a strange object in the sky. The authorities wrote back explaining about the weather balloon that had been in the area and about the clocks going back that night!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Svetonio Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2013 at 10:00
Originally posted by chopper

Originally posted by Svetonio

Originally posted by Snow Dog


Originally posted by chopper

Originally posted by Svetonio

Those phenomenons as "ghosts", UFO, SHC, oceans' "monsters" and so on, really exists, but the Science can not explain such things yet.
 

 

Can you back up that statement with evidence?

Of course he can't.

There is a lot of evidences that a number od phenomenas exists, but the Science is not able to explain what is that yet. For example, SHC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_human_combustion
I'm quite prepared to believe in SHC as it's an observed phenomena but one we haven't found a definitive scientific explanation for, however ghosts and UFOs are a different thing and generally explainable e.g. the guy who reported he must have been abducted by aliens as his watch was an hour slow so he must have lost an hour of his life, also he'd seen a strange object in the sky. The authorities wrote back explaining about the weather balloon that had been in the area and about the clocks going back that night!

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than you are dreamt in your philosophy"


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Originally posted by Svetonio

Originally posted by chopper

Originally posted by Svetonio

Originally posted by Snow Dog


Originally posted by chopper

Originally posted by Svetonio

Those phenomenons as "ghosts", UFO, SHC, oceans' "monsters" and so on, really exists, but the Science can not explain such things yet.
 

 

Can you back up that statement with evidence?

Of course he can't.

There is a lot of evidences that a number od phenomenas exists, but the Science is not able to explain what is that yet. For example, SHC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_human_combustion
I'm quite prepared to believe in SHC as it's an observed phenomena but one we haven't found a definitive scientific explanation for, however ghosts and UFOs are a different thing and generally explainable e.g. the guy who reported he must have been abducted by aliens as his watch was an hour slow so he must have lost an hour of his life, also he'd seen a strange object in the sky. The authorities wrote back explaining about the weather balloon that had been in the area and about the clocks going back that night!

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than you are dreamt in your philosophy"

Spontaneous combustion  has been proved as  hokum. At least  there is no evidence to support it. And a  quote from Shakespear  proves nothing.
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Wow I opened a can of worms here. What was the title of this thread? I guess it mattered back in the days of vinyl but these days with all this downloading sh*t people just make up their own albums and put the tracks in the order they want. 
The best ending track on an album for be back in the days of horse and buggies and long division was the 1975 Focus compilation album Dutch Masters with that " fast version " of Hocus Pocus. When I got that I just freaked out because I bought the album without even having heard this "fast " version. Hearing that end fade for the first time was so cool.


I think another great end track was Canario from ELPs Love Beach. After sitting through the whole mess finally you got some relief that the album wasn't all that horrible. I even saw Carl Palmer play it on his solo tour. 


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Originally posted by Snow Dog

Originally posted by chopper

Originally posted by Snow Dog

Originally posted by chopper

Originally posted by Svetonio

Originally posted by The Dark Elf

"Los Endos" makes perfect sense as a closing track. If it were at the start it would "Los Beginningos".

Los Endos is one of the greatest Symphonic Prog instrumentals I ever heard.
It's not an instrumental, it has singing on it.

Are you me? A bit pedantic by even my standards.LOL
LOL thanks.
OK it's a bit pedantic, but there are vocals on it (albeit briefly).
 
I've always wondered what constitues an instrumental - is it a song with no voices at all or with no words e.g. is The Beatles "Flying" an instrumental?

I'd say technically they are not. What irritates  me is Rush "instrumentals" with background  vocalisations from Geddy.  I  hate that. Wish I could  cut it out.


Don't know about you, but I still refer to Pink Floyd's "Careful with that Axe, Eugene" and "One of These Days" as instrumentals. Just one spoken line in each one, but I would say that would constitute an instrumental, as would there rendition of "Several Species of Small Furry Animals...".
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What is Hocus Pocus then. A polka? maybe they should have had an alp horn solo.
                
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My fav ending track by Jethro Tull. 



Simply fantastic.


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Originally posted by Vibrationbaby

Wow I opened a can of worms here. What was the title of this thread? I guess it mattered back in the days of vinyl but these days with all this downloading sh*t people just make up their own albums and put the tracks in the order they want. 
The best ending track on an album for be back in the days of horse and buggies and long division was the 1975 Focus compilation album Dutch Masters with that " fast version " of Hocus Pocus. When I got that I just freaked out because I bought the album without even having heard this "fast " version. Hearing that end fade for the first time was so cool.


I think another great end track was Canario from ELPs Love Beach. After sitting through the whole mess finally you got some relief that the album wasn't all that horrible. I even saw Carl Palmer play it on his solo tour. 

Canario isn't the end track though.
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... by GonG... a title track as ending track as well...


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Originally posted by Wanorak

IMO, Aisle of Plenty is by no means weak!! It ties in perfectly as a reprise to Dancing With the Moonlit Knight.

As the album is for me Genesis's look at a decaying 70's England in all things history, commerce, love, crime etc---Aisle of Plenty does tie it all up nicely. 
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I think Genesis should have been switched Musical Box and Fountain of Salmacsis, from beginning to end.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Svetonio Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2013 at 06:58
I think  that  the Too Old ...  is shamfuly underatted album!! 
Just listen to the beautiful ending track, this is non folk Jethro Tull at their best Approve




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What do you mean non-folk? Tull aren't a folk band.
                
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Originally posted by Vibrationbaby

What do you mean non-folk? Tull aren't a folk band.

They definitely have some Folk Rock or Prog Foik output.
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What do you mean non-folk? Tull aren't a folk band.
Too old ... the album went in the middle of Jethro Tull's Prog Folk phase.

Well, because I ' m too old ( for r'n'r and ...), and in my time there was two ending tracks per an album, because of those two sides of a vinyl LPs, I'd liike to post this amazing balllad too...




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Post Options Post Options   Quote Svetonio Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2013 at 08:00
Originally posted by Snow Dog

Originally posted by Svetonio

Originally posted by chopper

Originally posted by Svetonio

Originally posted by Snow Dog


Originally posted by chopper

Originally posted by Svetonio

Those phenomenons as "ghosts", UFO, SHC, oceans' "monsters" and so on, really exists, but the Science can not explain such things yet.
 

 

Can you back up that statement with evidence?

Of course he can't.

There is a lot of evidences that a number od phenomenas exists, but the Science is not able to explain what is that yet. For example, SHC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_human_combustion
I'm quite prepared to believe in SHC as it's an observed phenomena but one we haven't found a definitive scientific explanation for, however ghosts and UFOs are a different thing and generally explainable e.g. the guy who reported he must have been abducted by aliens as his watch was an hour slow so he must have lost an hour of his life, also he'd seen a strange object in the sky. The authorities wrote back explaining about the weather balloon that had been in the area and about the clocks going back that night!

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than you are dreamt in your philosophy"

Spontaneous combustion  has been proved as  hokum. At least  there is no evidence to support it. And a  quote from Shakespear  proves nothing.

Yes, it proves a lot. For example, let's imagine "Horatio" bump to see this:



What he's gonna to say about? Those guys are demons, angels or gods?
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