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progbethyname
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Posted: June 12 2013 at 22:47 | ||||
Al great!!! GRRRRRRRRREAT!!! |
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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Svetonio
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Posted: June 13 2013 at 01:03 | ||||
Actually, I'm not a big fan of ITCOCK. But '70s progressive rock bands and solo artists were recorded so many great albums that were completly original and great quality then released; today the most prog bands just recycles that heritage because it is impossible to create something so original and better in the same genre - aside of the "new" genres what we accepted as progressive rock although that weren't exist in '70s - for example progressive metal and post /math rock. |
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: June 13 2013 at 02:44 | ||||
More made up genres. Math rock? C'mon give me a break.
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Svetonio
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Posted: June 13 2013 at 03:24 | ||||
You can love it or not but Post / Math Rock is completly original genre and the best thing that happened in progresive music since 70s. Also, there are not bad ending tracks in the Post/Math, on contrary - so beautiful crescendos I heard Edited by Svetonio - June 13 2013 at 03:24 |
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: June 13 2013 at 03:45 | ||||
There is no such thing just like there is no such thing as ghosts or UFOs or the Loch Ness Monster. These are made up genres just like many of the made up genres on this site. Read Edward Macan's book.
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Svetonio
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Posted: June 13 2013 at 04:53 | ||||
Those phenomenons as "ghosts", UFO, SHC, oceans' "monsters" and so on, really exists, but the Science can not explain such things yet. But, Post/Math rock is made by MUSICIANS; there's no mistery; you can listen to them and to see them on a concert. You can talk with them. So, your comparision with obscure mysteries is not valid, even not funny if we have in mind that the SHC phenomenon is not so rare but we still can not explain it... Well, in 20 yrs people will say "yea, post rock was great" or "f.., it was bs" but there's not so much individuals who can see the future so clear to tell us what exactly will be people's opinion about today's proggy scene. p.s. Oh man, you really don't believe in aliens? This is a group of them, from the planet GonG, a photo taken in early 70s by Direction Centrale Des Renseigments Generaux: Edited by Svetonio - June 13 2013 at 05:35 |
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Blacksword
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Posted: June 13 2013 at 05:24 | ||||
Indeed. There are probably more strong album closers than weak closers across the classic prog era. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Svetonio
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Posted: June 13 2013 at 05:37 | ||||
Los Endos is one of the greatest Symphonic Prog instrumentals I ever heard.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 13 2013 at 06:20 | ||||
What is Maths Rock? What is mathmaticical about it? Is it calculated music? Is it computer written? Was Bach Maths Orchestral?
Edited by Snow Dog - June 13 2013 at 06:20 |
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chopper
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Posted: June 13 2013 at 06:58 | ||||
Can you back up that statement with evidence?
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chopper
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Posted: June 13 2013 at 06:59 | ||||
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HarbouringTheSoul
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Posted: June 13 2013 at 07:00 | ||||
Every genre is made up. King Crimson didn't sit down in 1969 and decided "we're gonna make a progressive rock record". The Ramones didn't call themselves punk rock when they first started to play - journalists invented the term. When a new type of music comes along, people will start to label it, and one name will eventually stick. So why not math rock? As for the "genres" on this website, many of them are just umbrella terms used for convenience. I think we can all agree that "Eclectic Prog" or "Crossover Prog" aren't actual styles of music, but they do make sense for categorizing bands on this website. |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 13 2013 at 07:01 | ||||
Are you me? A bit pedantic by even my standards.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 13 2013 at 07:01 | ||||
Of course he can't.
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chopper
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Posted: June 13 2013 at 07:16 | ||||
thanks.
OK it's a bit pedantic, but there are vocals on it (albeit briefly).
I've always wondered what constitues an instrumental - is it a song with no voices at all or with no words e.g. is The Beatles "Flying" an instrumental?
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 13 2013 at 07:19 | ||||
I'd say technically they are not. What irritates me is Rush "instrumentals" with background vocalisations from Geddy. I hate that. Wish I could cut it out.
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Blacksword
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Posted: June 13 2013 at 07:31 | ||||
It's a modern name for 'prog rock' As far as I can see it's characterised by a number of musical principles than underpin pretty much all progressive rock. A sub genre for the sake of a sub genre? Math rock Relatively young bands, too cool for the prog label?? |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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VOTOMS
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Posted: June 13 2013 at 07:34 | ||||
math rock = technical modern rock
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 13 2013 at 07:35 | ||||
So that's Maths Rock. Sounds awful.
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chopper
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Posted: June 13 2013 at 07:37 | ||||
"math rock frequently uses asymmetrical time signatures such as 7/8, 11/8, or 13/8, or features constantly changing meters based on various groupings of 2 and 3. "
So Supper's Ready is math rock then?
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