Snow Dog wrote:
moshkito wrote:
The rest of the album I love dearly ... every bit of it.... But allowing someone their expression is important ... and there is no such thing as bad ... just because you, or I don't like it ... prog is no more plagued by BAD endings, than Shakespeare or Moliere or Dickens! |
So....no discussion is worthwhile then? I disagree that Prog has bad endings any more than other genres but talking about itr and disagreeing with each other isn't a problem. |
The discussion is fine with me. The problem is that it was being compared to an imaginary ending that was his opinion ... that was what should be considered an interesting comment, but not necessarily a fact. I'm thinking that he could not see a conformitty in the ending, musically, which made it more difficult to figure out.
Ex: Aphrodite's Child's album was never "discussed" or given a whole lot of expression and direction and explanation during its time, and I, for one, am glad! It was also intentionally blacklisted and hidden because of the cover and its title ... it's like all it was missing was Aleister Crowley's head on the back cover ... see what I mean? ... ohhh but Black Sabbath is ok .... such hippocrisy! I kinda liken this album to ... very simply ... sex, drugs, a little religion, and rock'n'roll ... exactly what we all have and rely on most of the time. How it ends, I think it's funny ... let's just have a party!
All in all, an ending is an ending, and it doesn't matter to me who it belongs to ... but I have, in my life, only complained about one ending in any album ... EVER ... and it was Nektar's Recycled ... when after all that power, and strength ... it was over ... and dead and gone. The band was tired and not able to continue! And it was true for almost 20 years, and though they have picked it up some, in many ways ... they haven't ... the spark is gone. Yes, it's different now, but it is not as meaningful as it was then.
I have a really hard time, for example, comparing the endings of a Beethoven piece, to a Mozart piece. Mozart is very clever ... and often "cute" in his endings ... but Beethoven, at times could be said to think ... that's enough ... close it! And then you hear The rite of Spring", and that ending is great for me.
I love the differences, and how everyone interprets it. But I'm like Ange ... that after the song is over, the piano hits a 5th ... that is not a part of the music ... but it is now! It kinda says it all!
Edited by moshkito - June 19 2013 at 08:51