Poetry of Progressive Rock

Some guy wrote up a very in-depth analysis of all the Peter Sinfield KC lyrics. Not sure how accurate, or even coherent, most of the 20 chapters are, as I've only browsed excerpts, but fans may want to give it a read:

The same interest and the same names came to mind - for me it's a retirement project, which is coming up soon!!!!

The.Crimson.King wrote: progbethyname wrote: <span style="line-height: 1.2;">Also. Does A SCRIPT FOR A JESTERS TEAR give you confidence not wallow in a lost love? </span>Listening to a SCRIPT never makes me want to Dwell in such matters. Nice story though and picture of emotions relayed by FISH. anyways. I know I'm a bit different. Lol "Promised wedding now a wake" is such a powerful image...and the way he spits it out with such venom on the live "Thieving Magpie" version of Script always knocks me out...

I guess I don't any woman to make me feel that way. Fish. Puts me on the defensive not to feel let down by a woman.

'The Game is oooooooooooooover!!!!'

The.Crimson.King wrote: progbethyname wrote: The.Crimson.King wrote: progbethyname wrote: ^ this is fun. It's just amazing the insight and creativity FISH has in his lyrics. He has serious depth. Not too many like him. I'm glad he has been the subject of topic on this forum. He should be well known and appreciated. Now, what can we say out of the 4 albums FISH has with MARILLION had the most impact on yourself, lyrically?? For me it's Misplaced Childhood.  There are too many excellent metaphors and analogies to count as the main character relives the myriad twists and turns of his love-ravaged existence.  The song "Childhood's End" where he confronts himself in a mirror rediscovering that his true self still exists even after his trials and tribulations gives me the chills every single time I hear it  Ah yes. The infamous man in the mirror confronting the true character of himself. That's a powerful point in the story. Dear god what an album! Really teaches you to grow up!    Ya, maybe they should have titled the album: Misplaced Childhood (or How I Learned to Get Over Myself)

Well maybe not that harshly But we all need a shot in the arm to either wake up or put petty squabbles aside and move on with your life. Really all 4 fish albums send out a very deep and meaningful message and all are helpful in one's life. I think it's an honor to be touched and changed by some of the FISH years Marillion albums.
Sometimes in life we just gotta put the headphones on and be taught a few things. I owe a lot to music poetic or not. :)

Also. Does A SCRIPT FOR A JESTERS TEAR give you confidence not wallow in a lost love?
Listening to a SCRIPT never makes me want to Dwell in such matters. Nice story though and picture of emotions relayed by FISH. anyways. I know I'm a bit different. Lol

The.Crimson.King wrote: progbethyname wrote: ^ this is fun. It's just amazing the insight and creativity FISH has in his lyrics. He has serious depth. Not too many like him. I'm glad he has been the subject of topic on this forum. He should be well known and appreciated. Now, what can we say out of the 4 albums FISH has with MARILLION had the most impact on yourself, lyrically?? For me it's Misplaced Childhood.  There are too many excellent metaphors and analogies to count as the main character relives the myriad twists and turns of his love-ravaged existence.  The song "Childhood's End" where he confronts himself in a mirror rediscovering that his true self still exists even after his trials and tribulations gives me the chills every single time I hear it

Ah yes. The infamous man in the mirror confronting the true character of himself. That's a powerful point in the story. Dear god what an album! Really teaches you to grow up!   

^ this is fun.



It's just amazing the insight and creativity FISH has in his lyrics. He has serious depth. Not too many like him.
I'm glad he has been the subject of topic on this forum. He should be well known and appreciated.

Now, what can we say out of the 4 albums FISH has with MARILLION had the most impact on yourself, lyrically??

For me, it has to be CLUTCHING AT THE STRAWS.
That is an album that really taught me not be a person to get overly aquainted and comfortable with the whole 'bar culture.' To me, it's really easy to get caught up being a complete barfly and piss away your life in the process.
The album, as a whole, inspired me to choose athletics over being a bar stool and to hang out with the right people in life, especially not the ones who will drag you down with them. Lastly, the album taught me that if you become really good at something don't let it get away from you so easy by being a victim of bad habit. In This instance, I'm a runner so hanging out at the bar all the time won't help my talents at all.

Just a bit of food for thought, but I'd be very interested to hear what you all have to say including TUBES AND KNOBBY if they freaking behave! Lol

The.Crimson.King wrote: Dean wrote: Tubes wrote: I always thought the gravestone and flower were allusions to the death of his spilt seed and his own mourning (self pity) about it. The message: Don't jack off. You're killing potential people. Fish would not make such a statement and it's a wild leap of imagination to interpret it that way.   Incubus continues from where The Web finishes. For clues compare "You're all but forgotten, A mote in my heart" from The Web with " I've played this scene before, I the mote in your eye" from Incubus - they are thematically linked through photographs "Faded photos exposing pain"/"The darkroom unleashes imagination in pornographic images".   The Web was about a person not letting go after the end if a relationship, Incubus is the same person discovering compromising photographs from that relationship and realising the embarassment they could cause to the ex-girlfriend now. "With no flower to place before this gravestone" is merely an observation that there is no one mourning the death of that old relationship. I found a clip of "Incubus" with Fish explaining his lyrical intention.  He doesn't specifically mention "The Web" or the "flower and gravestone", but does tell an amusing story of an embarrassing photograph  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk2soZPEFIs

progbethyname wrote: The.Crimson.King wrote: progbethyname wrote: Agalloch are blowing my mind these days. The album. ASHES AGAINST THE GRAIN. Here are the opening lyrics... The texture of the soul is a vermillion flood                From a wound carved from an oath; it fills the riverbank a sanguine fog                These arms were ment to be lost! Hacked, severed and forgotten                The texture of timevidvs whisper that echoes across the flood                It's hymn resonates from tree to tree, though ever sullen bough it sings                These boughs were said to be lost! Torn, Unearthed and broken                  Earth to flesh, flesh to wood, cast these LIMBS into water                  Flesh to wood, wood to stone, cast the stone into water.... Ok. Wow. This is heavy doom and gloom and such a bleak outlook on the nature of our souls. What do you guys think? Beautiful and brutal right? I like it, "Hacked, Severed and Forgotten" could have been the title of a Peter Hammill song.  I was intrigued so I hit youtube and listened to the whole album.  First time I've heard them...vaguely remind me of My Dying Bride's, "As the Flower Withers".  Nice marriage of words and music...though without your translation I doubt I could have picked them out    Also. Have you listened to Van Der Graf Generator's GoldBluff? To you have an appreciation in General For Hammil's song writing lIke say for, ARROW. ? Anyway how. Just curious. I want to explore more of VDGG's music.

Tubes wrote: Musically, you can't even compare Marillion to Genesis. Marillion is, if I were to use the familial analogy, the half-retarded step-child of Genesis.

Absolute bullsh*t on a stick....and despite the more obvious moments in the intitial recordings and debut album from Marillion, they completely moved away from that and made their own style very quickly. It's a lazy recycled ignorant opinion from someone who probably never bothered to actually listen to more than a few bits of their music.

Tubes wrote: Classic Genesis beats Neo-Prog any day.

Cool...Yes, Genesis is one of the legends for a reason, but thanks for completely dismissing an entire sub-genre of bands that have put out some amazing music too.



Edited by Aussie-Byrd-Brother - June 23 2013 at 10:39

Dean wrote: Tubes wrote: I always thought the gravestone and flower were allusions to the death of his spilt seed and his own mourning (self pity) about it. The message: Don't jack off. You're killing potential people. Fish would not make such a statement and it's a wild leap of imagination to interpret it that way.   Incubus continues from where The Web finishes. For clues compare "You're all but forgotten, A mote in my heart" from The Web with " I've played this scene before, I the mote in your eye" from Incubus - they are thematically linked through photographs "Faded photos exposing pain"/"The darkroom unleashes imagination in pornographic images".   The Web was about a person not letting go after the end if a relationship, Incubus is the same person discovering compromising photographs from that relationship and realising the embarassment they could cause to the ex-girlfriend now. "With no flower to place before this gravestone" is merely an observation that there is no one mourning the death of that old relationship.

The continuation of THE WEB eh? Wow. Very interesting and the way you explain it sounds quite accurate. Thank for this. :)