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    Posted: June 23 2013 at 14:34
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I always thought the gravestone and flower were allusions to the death of his spilt seed and his own mourning (self pity) about it. The message: Don't jack off. You're killing potential people.
Fish would not make such a statement and it's a wild leap of imagination to interpret it that way.
 
Incubus continues from where The Web finishes. For clues compare "You're all but forgotten, A mote in my heart" from The Web with " I've played this scene before, I the mote in your eye" from Incubus - they are thematically linked through photographs "Faded photos exposing pain"/"The darkroom unleashes imagination in pornographic images".
 
The Web was about a person not letting go after the end if a relationship, Incubus is the same person discovering compromising photographs from that relationship and realising the embarassment they could cause to the ex-girlfriend now. "With no flower to place before this gravestone" is merely an observation that there is no one mourning the death of that old relationship.

I found a clip of "Incubus" with Fish explaining his lyrical intention.  He doesn't specifically mention "The Web" or the "flower and gravestone", but does tell an amusing story of an embarrassing photograph LOL

Clap nice find. He does mention The Web at the beginning of the intro-story.


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Originally posted by The.Crimson.King

 

I found a clip of "Incubus" with Fish explaining his lyrical intention.  He doesn't specifically mention "The Web" or the "flower and gravestone", but does tell an amusing story of an embarrassing photograph LOL

Clap nice find. He does mention The Web at the beginning of the intro-story.

Right you are!  I missed it the first time through...guess I just couldn't understand his Scottish Highland Brogue Confused


Edited by The.Crimson.King - June 23 2013 at 15:51
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^ this is fun.



It's just amazing the insight and creativity FISH has in his lyrics. He has serious depth. Not too many like him.
I'm glad he has been the subject of topic on this forum. He should be well known and appreciated.

Now, what can we say out of the 4 albums FISH has with MARILLION had the most impact on yourself, lyrically??

For me, it has to be CLUTCHING AT THE STRAWS.
That is an album that really taught me not be a person to get overly aquainted and comfortable with the whole 'bar culture.' To me, it's really easy to get caught up being a complete barfly and piss away your life in the process.
The album, as a whole, inspired me to choose athletics over being a bar stool and to hang out with the right people in life, especially not the ones who will drag you down with them. Lastly, the album taught me that if you become really good at something don't let it get away from you so easy by being a victim of bad habit. In This instance, I'm a runner so hanging out at the bar all the time won't help my talents at all.

Just a bit of food for thought, but I'd be very interested to hear what you all have to say including TUBES AND KNOBBY if they freaking behave! Lol
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Originally posted by progbethyname

^ this is fun.



It's just amazing the insight and creativity FISH has in his lyrics. He has serious depth. Not too many like him.
I'm glad he has been the subject of topic on this forum. He should be well known and appreciated.

Now, what can we say out of the 4 albums FISH has with MARILLION had the most impact on yourself, lyrically??

For me it's Misplaced Childhood.  There are too many excellent metaphors and analogies to count as the main character relives the myriad twists and turns of his love-ravaged existence.  The song "Childhood's End" where he confronts himself in a mirror rediscovering that his true self still exists even after his trials and tribulations gives me the chills every single time I hear it Clap


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Originally posted by The.Crimson.King


Originally posted by progbethyname

^ this is fun.



It's just amazing the insight and creativity FISH has in his lyrics. He has serious depth. Not too many like him.
I'm glad he has been the subject of topic on this forum. He should be well known and appreciated.

Now, what can we say out of the 4 albums FISH has with MARILLION had the most impact on yourself, lyrically??

For me it's Misplaced Childhood.  There are too many excellent metaphors and analogies to count as the main character relives the myriad twists and turns of his love-ravaged existence.  The song "Childhood's End" where he confronts himself in a mirror rediscovering that his true self still exists even after his trials and tribulations gives me the chills every single time I hear it Clap


Ah yes. The infamous man in the mirror confronting the true character of himself. That's a powerful point in the story. Dear god what an album! Really teaches you to grow up!   
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Originally posted by progbethyname

^ this is fun.



It's just amazing the insight and creativity FISH has in his lyrics. He has serious depth. Not too many like him.
I'm glad he has been the subject of topic on this forum. He should be well known and appreciated.

Now, what can we say out of the 4 albums FISH has with MARILLION had the most impact on yourself, lyrically??

For me it's Misplaced Childhood.  There are too many excellent metaphors and analogies to count as the main character relives the myriad twists and turns of his love-ravaged existence.  The song "Childhood's End" where he confronts himself in a mirror rediscovering that his true self still exists even after his trials and tribulations gives me the chills every single time I hear it Clap


Ah yes. The infamous man in the mirror confronting the true character of himself. That's a powerful point in the story. Dear god what an album! Really teaches you to grow up!   

Ya, maybe they should have titled the album:

Misplaced Childhood (or How I Learned to Get Over Myself) LOL
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Originally posted by The.Crimson.King


Originally posted by progbethyname

Originally posted by The.Crimson.King


Originally posted by progbethyname

^ this is fun.



It's just amazing the insight and creativity FISH has in his lyrics. He has serious depth. Not too many like him.
I'm glad he has been the subject of topic on this forum. He should be well known and appreciated.

Now, what can we say out of the 4 albums FISH has with MARILLION had the most impact on yourself, lyrically??

For me it's Misplaced Childhood.  There are too many excellent metaphors and analogies to count as the main character relives the myriad twists and turns of his love-ravaged existence.  The song "Childhood's End" where he confronts himself in a mirror rediscovering that his true self still exists even after his trials and tribulations gives me the chills every single time I hear it Clap


Ah yes. The infamous man in the mirror confronting the true character of himself. That's a powerful point in the story. Dear god what an album! Really teaches you to grow up!   

Ya, maybe they should have titled the album:
Misplaced Childhood (or How I Learned to Get Over Myself) LOL


Well maybe not that harshly But we all need a shot in the arm to either wake up or put petty squabbles aside and move on with your life. Really all 4 fish albums send out a very deep and meaningful message and all are helpful in one's life. I think it's an honor to be touched and changed by some of the FISH years Marillion albums.
Sometimes in life we just gotta put the headphones on and be taught a few things. I owe a lot to music poetic or not. :)

Also. Does A SCRIPT FOR A JESTERS TEAR give you confidence not wallow in a lost love?
Listening to a SCRIPT never makes me want to Dwell in such matters. Nice story though and picture of emotions relayed by FISH. anyways. I know I'm a bit different. Lol
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Also. Does A SCRIPT FOR A JESTERS TEAR give you confidence not wallow in a lost love? 
Listening to a SCRIPT never makes me want to Dwell in such matters. Nice story though and picture of emotions relayed by FISH. anyways. I know I'm a bit different. Lol

"Promised wedding now a wake" is such a powerful image...and the way he spits it out with such venom on the live "Thieving Magpie" version of Script always knocks me out...Bowdown


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<span style="line-height: 1.2;">Also. Does A SCRIPT FOR A JESTERS TEAR give you confidence not wallow in a lost love? </span>Listening to a SCRIPT never makes me want to Dwell in such matters. Nice story though and picture of emotions relayed by FISH. anyways. I know I'm a bit different. Lol

"Promised wedding now a wake" is such a powerful image...and the way he spits it out with such venom on the live "Thieving Magpie" version of Script always knocks me out...Bowdown



I guess I don't any woman to make me feel that way. Fish. Puts me on the defensive not to feel let down by a woman.

'The Game is oooooooooooooover!!!!'

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Originally posted by The.Crimson.King



Originally posted by progbethyname

<span style="line-height: 1.2;">Also. Does A SCRIPT FOR A JESTERS TEAR give you confidence not wallow in a lost love? </span>Listening to a SCRIPT never makes me want to Dwell in such matters. Nice story though and picture of emotions relayed by FISH. anyways. I know I'm a bit different. Lol

"Promised wedding now a wake" is such a powerful image...and the way he spits it out with such venom on the live "Thieving Magpie" version of Script always knocks me out...Bowdown



I guess I don't any woman to make me feel that way. Fish. Puts me on the defensive not to feel let down by a woman.

'The Game is oooooooooooooover!!!!'



No remorse no regrets. It's hard to do have this in the game of love.
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