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Metalmarsh89
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Posted: June 21 2013 at 01:27 |
If I already am familiar with the band, I will typically by their new albums upon release. Otherwise I'll typically delve into the aged classics of a given artist.
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New2prog
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Posted: June 21 2013 at 03:18 |
I'm still trying to catch up on releases of Prog in the 1970's. It just doesn't make sense to me to buy new stuff when I don't even have all the classic prog albums. I mean I still don't have every Crimson album or Gentle Giant album.. so until I do.. I won't be buying new prog. I'm not a fan of metal guitar either. I think Steve Howe used about as much sustain or distortion as I can handle. I actually prefer cleaner players like John McLaughlin.
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mrtortoise
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Posted: June 21 2013 at 06:54 |
Unfortunately the only two prog albums that I purchased the year of their release were Yes 'Drama' and KC 'The Power to Believe'. PA is helping me learn about lots of great contemporary prog bands (and convenient acronyms!) so maybe that trend will be broken.
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dr wu23
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Posted: June 21 2013 at 08:06 |
A good place for those just starting to listen to both old and new are the lists on the home pages of the 100 greatest prog lp's.
Edited by dr wu23 - June 22 2013 at 07:37
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: June 21 2013 at 15:40 |
dr wu23 wrote:
A good place for those just statring to listen to both old and new are the lists on the home pages of the 100 greatest prog lp's. |
I tend to use the lists here, Gnosis & RYM.
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Ian
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I-Juca Pirama
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Posted: June 21 2013 at 16:38 |
The problem of it is the lack of uploads... Where I live, the prog classics are already rare in stores, so new ones are even hard to find!
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Moogtron III
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Posted: June 22 2013 at 02:32 |
The first albums that I bought (Merlin by Kayak and Arc Of A Diver by Steve Winwood) were released in the same year. When I became a fan of Genesis, Traffic and Yes, though, I started buying back catalogues. I used to follow bands/artists like Genesis, Yes, IQ, Pendragon and Allan Holdsworth in the 1980's / 1990's, but I think more than 95% of the albums I bought were released much earlier.
Nowadays I don't buy new albums at all anymore.
Edited by Moogtron III - June 22 2013 at 02:34
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Tess Herect
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Posted: June 22 2013 at 04:16 |
I'm quite new to Progressive Rock in general, so I've been mostly listening to the most renowned stuff from late 60's and early 70's to start off with. The only new group (or artist, in this case) that I've become interested in is Steven Wilson, so The Raven that Refused to Sing (and Other Stories) is the only album I yet own which has been in it's year of release. Hopefully once I get around to some other new acts I'll be getting some more...
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Ivbgutie
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Gerinski
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Posted: June 22 2013 at 05:05 |
When I was young (the 80's) I used to buy many albums right on release, even many I did not know in advance, it was enough that the record store guy or some friend or magazine would recommend it (or even simply by the artwork). Besides, I used to do most of my shopping at a store specialized in Prog so I discussed with the owner and I had always quite the safety of not making big mistakes. Nowadays I still buy new releases by well known bands (Rush, Transatlantic etc) and maybe a few based on PA reception. Many albums gather a lot of reviews within the first 1 or 2 months so it's not like you have to wait 3 years in order to get a feel for what sort of music it is.
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Ivbgutie
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Posted: June 22 2013 at 05:30 |
well, the album is online on itunes, amazon, rhapsody if you wish to have it, i would be pleased to give it to you the cd in your hands if one day our music take us to your country.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: June 22 2013 at 05:46 |
Simple : Build a time machine. If there's a band you know that"s going to appear in say, 1969 like King Crimson, then set the controls for Early 1969 so you can experience all the hype leading up to it and just before it comes out you can wait in line to buy an original pressing abd then you can get to Hyde Park early so you can get a good vantage point to see them. But you would have to make sure not to talk to anybody because you might put a tear in the fabric of time. But I guess by purchasing the album you would have changed history.
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dr wu23
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Posted: June 22 2013 at 07:39 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
A good place for those just statring to listen to both old and new are the lists on the home pages of the 100 greatest prog lp's. | I tend to use the lists here, Gnosis & RYM.
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Yes..I was referring to PA's lists here ...should have made that clearer. For me if I were new to prog I'd be listening to and buying some of the early classics first to get a solid background for the styles....not to mention that most of the greatest ones made were from the 70's.
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moshkito
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Posted: June 22 2013 at 16:56 |
paganinio wrote:
Do you generally acquire and listen to a, say, 2008 prog rock album, in the year 2008?
I really fail to do this. I'm always discovering great prog albums about 8 or 9 years after their release....
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Now, with the incredible amount of media and internet and what not ... thre is no reason to "miss" anything ... you might get a better listen for it later ... but generally, if you liked it, our appreciation for it will hold. It did all of us for 35 years ... why not now for you? The idea that something sounds diferent, and ok now, but not ok for your ears at a diferent time, is a bit silly from my perspective. There isn't a single piece of music from then, that I have not heard, or appreciated, that I failed to enjoy or not give it a fair listen ... ohh excuse me ... there is one ... Kansas! Got tired of that radio play! I mean TIRED! In general, ti is like saying that yesterday, I could not appreciate Mozart, but tomorrow I will ... in general, you tend to hold onto the tastes your whole life, because that "feeling" you had will ALWAS be true! It is a part of you! AND it has nothing to do with anything else. Fo many years, in the LP world, many of these albums were not possible to get. In the import days, we got the new CAN album almost a year later ... I got Tago Mago 2 full years after it was released and way after "Ege Bamyasi" and many other albums by other bands due to the availability of these things ... and today... this is negligeable In general, I recommend a good listen BEFORE everyone else does, so you can have your own opinion. While I would support PA, I would NEVER buy something strictly by someone's idea or choice ... THEY RE NOT ME, AND I'M NOT THEM ... so you give up your ability and right to choose? AND learn for yourself? NEVER
Edited by moshkito - June 22 2013 at 16:59
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infocat
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Posted: June 22 2013 at 22:04 |
Yes.
Total purchases so far this year: 74 Of these, 2013 - 28 2012 - 15 2011 - 3 2010 - 1 2000s - 12 1990s - 3 1980s - 6 1970s - 6
Here's my "this year" collection, with comments:
io - Our Disintegrating Museum My second from them.
Riverside - Shrine of New Generation Slaves Completing my collection.
Voivod - Target Earth Haven't gotten one of theirs since 1993.
Coheed and Cambria - The Afterman: Descension Continuing my collection.
Hanging Garden - At Every Door My first from them (not prog); bought on a whim based on description of being a death/doom version of The Cure. Don't really see it, but...
Cult Of Luna - Vertikal My first from them.
Elephants of Scotland - Home Away From Home Their debut album.
Herd of Instinct - Conjure My first from them.
Steven Wilson - The Raven That Refused To Sing and other stories Later completed my collection with purchase of Insurgentes.
Oblivion Sun - The High Places Second; also have their debut.
Guapo - History of the Visitation My first from them.
This Town Needs Guns - 13.0.0.0.0 My first from them. (And perhaps my last...)
Spock's Beard - Brief Nocturnes and Dreamless Sleep My first from them since 1999.
Klaus Schulze - Shadowlands My second of his.
Jolly - The Audio Guide To Happiness (Disc Two Of Two) Also have Part One.
How To Destroy Angels - Welcome Oblivion Their first full-length. (Features Trent Reznor.)
Disperse - Living Mirrors My first from them.
Niacin - Krush My second from them.
Djam Karet - The Trip My collection is almost complete.
Soma White - Soma White Their debut.
Vultress - Distance Their debut full-length.
Scale The Summit - The Migration My second from them.
Phlox - YWNTS Have their debut full-length as download only; they also included their EP for free.
Nektar - Time Machine Also have their "Best of".
Leprous - Coal My first from them. (Will be getting the rest!!)
Sigur Ros - Kveikur Completing my collection.
Intronaut - Habitual Levitations (Instilling Words With Tones) My first from them.
Sanguine Hum - The Weight Of The World My first from them.
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progbethyname
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Posted: June 23 2013 at 10:32 |
Well what makes it special, discovering a great prog album in the same year it was constructed is that, most likely the band will be on tour to promote and play the album live! That's the best. For instance, if I'd not discovered dream Theater would I be enjoying the anticipation of their new album coming out sept/24th? No. Of course not. Also, they will be on tour for the album as well. All in all. Great prog is great prog and it really doesn't matter when you discover it just as long you have discovered it for yourself. The only thing, as i said earlier, you miss the hype and live concerts of the band which I feel can be a loss. Also, one last thing, we all have to accept that some things were just out of our time range! I mean, don't you think I'd have loved to see rush perform their 80's album classics Permenant waves, moving pictures, signals and grace under pressure LIVE! Sadly I'm only 32. Far too young. Marillion is another one (fish years.) boy...I would have enjoyed that.
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geekfreak
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Posted: June 24 2013 at 07:15 |
Oh I did no do hear a lot of prog music on its released date.
Genesis,Yes, ELP,Manning,Fish,Marillion,Rush, Tangent, PO90D,Rick Wakeman,Neal Morse, Dream Theater and Transatlatic.
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progbethyname
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Posted: June 24 2013 at 14:17 |
Vibrationbaby wrote:
Simple : Build a time machine. If there's a band you know that"s going to appear in say, 1969 like King Crimson, then set the controls for Early 1969 so you can experience all the hype leading up to it and just before it comes out you can wait in line to buy an original pressing abd then you can get to Hyde Park early so you can get a good vantage point to see them. But you would have to make sure not to talk to anybody because you might put a tear in the fabric of time. But I guess by purchasing the album you would have changed history. | Well if that ship that is your avatar can take you 1969 I want in!!!!! Lol Set the controls to the heart of......awesome!! Also. I think I would have appreciated laser Floyd shows in the late 70's. Just saying. :)
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Nick Dilley
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Posted: June 24 2013 at 16:40 |
I try to get/hear stuff when it's new, but I guess I'm in the same boat as you, except that it's more like 1-1.5 years later, not 8-9.
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Nick Dilley
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Posted: June 24 2013 at 16:41 |
But I guess it depends on the band. If they're one of my favorites, I'll get it right away. Like the day it comes out. For bands I like, anywhere in between that and like a year or so after it's released seems normal for me. But for bands that aren't that big, I tend to discover them later (which is common, I think).
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