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Stool Man
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Posted: June 27 2013 at 04:15 |
Fox On The Rocks wrote:
Stool Man wrote:
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Man, only if Syd stayed with the band. Gilmour included. Who knows where they would have taken off.
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Nah - with Syd not becoming ill and staying in the band, he'd stay as the lead singer & songwriter. Therefore the songs on their next albums would largely be those on Syd's solo albums (since those are the songs he wrote). No Ummagumma, no film soundtracks, no exploratory experimentation, no Dark Side Of The Moon, no megastardom - and maybe the band would've broken up in about 1970 or so.
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Yeaaah truuee. Maybe if his role in the band wasn't so dominant, things might have been different.
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Different indeed. Without the loss of Syd, there'd be no themes of madness and loss for Dark Side Of The Moon, Wish You Were Here, or The Wall.
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progbethyname
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Posted: June 27 2013 at 10:22 |
Stool Man wrote:
Fox On The Rocks wrote:
Stool Man wrote:
Fox On The Rocks wrote:
Man, only if Syd stayed with the band. Gilmour included. Who knows where they would have taken off. | Nah - with Syd not becoming ill and staying in the band, he'd stay as the lead singer & songwriter. Therefore the songs on their next albums would largely be those on Syd's solo albums (since those are the songs he wrote). No Ummagumma, no film soundtracks, no exploratory experimentation, no Dark Side Of The Moon, no megastardom - and maybe the band would've broken up in about 1970 or so. | Yeaaah truuee. Maybe if his role in the band wasn't so dominant, things might have been different. | Different indeed. Without the loss of Syd, there'd be no themes of madness and loss for Dark Side Of The Moon, Wish You Were Here, or The Wall. | I am thankful for all three of them. Wow. To think you have a band where 3 guys can sing exceedly well. Lol I think that one ups genesis. ;) To answer the question though, if syd was with the band Pink Floyd would have been a very different sounding band for the years to come under syd's reign. It's true. I don't imagine an album like THE WALL ever being created.
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progbethyname
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Posted: June 27 2013 at 10:27 |
Absolutely 100% for David Gilmore. I've also said this before where I even got a lot of joy out of Gilmore's officia full take over with the band in, A MOMENTARY LAPSE OF REASON. some incredible guitar and vocals on that album. SORROW, TERMINAL FROST and NOT YET ANOTHER MOVIE still remain as some of my dear favourite PF tracks of all time.
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Dellinger
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Posted: June 27 2013 at 21:27 |
progbethyname wrote:
Stool Man wrote:
Fox On The Rocks wrote:
Stool Man wrote:
Fox On The Rocks wrote:
Man, only if Syd stayed with the band. Gilmour included. Who knows where they would have taken off. | Nah - with Syd not becoming ill and staying in the band, he'd stay as the lead singer & songwriter. Therefore the songs on their next albums would largely be those on Syd's solo albums (since those are the songs he wrote). No Ummagumma, no film soundtracks, no exploratory experimentation, no Dark Side Of The Moon, no megastardom - and maybe the band would've broken up in about 1970 or so. | Yeaaah truuee. Maybe if his role in the band wasn't so dominant, things might have been different. | Different indeed. Without the loss of Syd, there'd be no themes of madness and loss for Dark Side Of The Moon, Wish You Were Here, or The Wall. | I am thankful for all three of them. Wow. To think you have a band where 3 guys can sing exceedly well. Lol I think that one ups genesis. ;) To answer the question though, if syd was with the band Pink Floyd would have been a very different sounding band for the years to come under syd's reign. It's true. I don't imagine an album like THE WALL ever being created.
| It was definitley better for the band that Gilmour took over for Syd, without him we would never have heard those excellent classic albums from Dark Side to The Wall... nor the ones that preceded them. Surely, Pink Floyd would never have become the legends they are today.
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Dellinger
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Posted: June 27 2013 at 21:30 |
progbethyname wrote:
Absolutely 100% for David Gilmore. I've also said this before where I even got a lot of joy out of Gilmore's officia full take over with the band in, A MOMENTARY LAPSE OF REASON. some incredible guitar and vocals on that album. SORROW, TERMINAL FROST and NOT YET ANOTHER MOVIE still remain as some of my dear favourite PF tracks of all time. | Yeah, I'm not really sure I can really complain about Waters splitting from the rest of the Floyd,I really like those songs you mentioned, and "The Division Bell" couldn't have been any better if Waters had been part of the band.
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Posted: June 27 2013 at 22:02 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
mongofa wrote:
Come in here dear boy | Roy Harper?! |
The obvious choice
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progbethyname
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Posted: June 27 2013 at 22:47 |
Dellinger wrote:
progbethyname wrote:
Stool Man wrote:
Fox On The Rocks wrote:
Stool Man wrote:
Fox On The Rocks wrote:
Man, only if Syd stayed with the band. Gilmour included. Who knows where they would have taken off. | Nah - with Syd not becoming ill and staying in the band, he'd stay as the lead singer & songwriter. Therefore the songs on their next albums would largely be those on Syd's solo albums (since those are the songs he wrote). No Ummagumma, no film soundtracks, no exploratory experimentation, no Dark Side Of The Moon, no megastardom - and maybe the band would've broken up in about 1970 or so. | Yeaaah truuee. Maybe if his role in the band wasn't so dominant, things might have been different. | Different indeed. Without the loss of Syd, there'd be no themes of madness and loss for Dark Side Of The Moon, Wish You Were Here, or The Wall. | I am thankful for all three of them. Wow. To think you have a band where 3 guys can sing exceedly well. Lol I think that one ups genesis. ;) To answer the question though, if syd was with the band Pink Floyd would have been a very different sounding band for the years to come under syd's reign. It's true. I don't imagine an album like THE WALL ever being created.
| It was definitley better for the band that Gilmour took over for Syd, without him we would never have heard those excellent classic albums from Dark Side to The Wall... nor the ones that preceded them. Surely, Pink Floyd would never have become the legends they are today. | You know what. Everything happens for a reason. Poor syd though. Anyway, WISH YOU WERE HERE was a great tribute to him. Omg Syd walked into the studio while they were recording that album and just broke the bands heart to see him the way he was. They barely recognized him! So so sad.
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Dellinger
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Posted: June 28 2013 at 22:36 |
progbethyname wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
progbethyname wrote:
Stool Man wrote:
Fox On The Rocks wrote:
Stool Man wrote:
Fox On The Rocks wrote:
Man, only if Syd stayed with the band. Gilmour included. Who knows where they would have taken off. | Nah - with Syd not becoming ill and staying in the band, he'd stay as the lead singer & songwriter. Therefore the songs on their next albums would largely be those on Syd's solo albums (since those are the songs he wrote). No Ummagumma, no film soundtracks, no exploratory experimentation, no Dark Side Of The Moon, no megastardom - and maybe the band would've broken up in about 1970 or so. | Yeaaah truuee. Maybe if his role in the band wasn't so dominant, things might have been different. | Different indeed. Without the loss of Syd, there'd be no themes of madness and loss for Dark Side Of The Moon, Wish You Were Here, or The Wall. | I am thankful for all three of them. Wow. To think you have a band where 3 guys can sing exceedly well. Lol I think that one ups genesis. ;) To answer the question though, if syd was with the band Pink Floyd would have been a very different sounding band for the years to come under syd's reign. It's true. I don't imagine an album like THE WALL ever being created.
| It was definitley better for the band that Gilmour took over for Syd, without him we would never have heard those excellent classic albums from Dark Side to The Wall... nor the ones that preceded them. Surely, Pink Floyd would never have become the legends they are today. | You know what. Everything happens for a reason. Poor syd though. Anyway, WISH YOU WERE HERE was a great tribute to him. Omg Syd walked into the studio while they were recording that album and just broke the bands heart to see him the way he was. They barely recognized him! So so sad. | Indeed, too bad that for such a titan of a band to be able to grow, a man had to be broken
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Anthony
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Posted: June 29 2013 at 06:16 |
Of course my vote goes to David. Calling Waters a vocalist is a joke. He either whispers or screams, there's nothing in between.
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giselle
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Posted: July 02 2013 at 02:49 |
Has to be Roger Waters (he would say so too!).
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richardh
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Posted: July 02 2013 at 14:08 |
Gilmour over Waters although I like the contrasting vocals especially when used in the same song ie Comfortably Numb.
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Posted: July 02 2013 at 21:38 |
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Has to be Roger Waters (he would say so too!). | I'm not sure about Waters having that opinion. Not given their vocal abilities in the present at least. A few years ago Gilmour and Waters appeared together on some sort of charity concert, and it was actually Gilmour who was trying to convince Waters sing with him. Waters was rather reluctant, specially because something of the song Gilmour wanted to play (some cover from someone else), the thing is that I remember some interview, or excerpt of one, in which Waters said he didn't want to sing that song because Gilmour had such a beautiful voice and Waters himself couldn't stand up to it. In the end, Gilmour convinced Waters by offering to play Comfortably Numb in one of The Wall shows Waters has been presenting. Back then, I guess both Gilmour and Waters knew perfectly well which parts fitted which singer better, and that's the beauty of the team (including Wright), each one sounds the best on the parts they sing.
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Josef_K
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Posted: July 03 2013 at 04:41 |
A hard one, voted for Waters though. Listened to a version where he and Clapton does "Wish You Were Here" recently in some charity concert and man... what a voice. The other two are incredible as well though, and of course much more technical. Syd is a wonderful singer as well, but comparing him to anyone about anything is simply not possible. Waters, Gilmour and Wright are very talented musicians. Syd was Syd. I guess no one ever understood him, least of all himself.
I also agree that they did their parts better than anyone else could have done them. The problem with Final Cut imo wasn't that Waters took over what should have been Gilmour parts. The problem was that no "Gilmour parts" were written, which is why that album lacks the diversity of previous ones, while still being a masterpiece in it's own right.
Edited by Josef_K - July 03 2013 at 04:42
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Posted: July 03 2013 at 14:46 |
Dellinger wrote:
giselle wrote:
Has to be Roger Waters (he would say so too!). |
I'm not sure about Waters having that opinion. Not given their vocal abilities in the present at least. A few years ago Gilmour and Waters appeared together on some sort of charity concert, and it was actually Gilmour who was trying to convince Waters sing with him. Waters was rather reluctant, specially because something of the song Gilmour wanted to play (some cover from someone else), the thing is that I remember some interview, or excerpt of one, in which Waters said he didn't want to sing that song because Gilmour had such a beautiful voice and Waters himself couldn't stand up to it. In the end, Gilmour convinced Waters by offering to play Comfortably Numb in one of The Wall shows Waters has been presenting. Back then, I guess both Gilmour and Waters knew perfectly well which parts fitted which singer better, and that's the beauty of the team (including Wright), each one sounds the best on the parts they sing. |
You're right, Waters has no illusions of being the better singer. The charity you're refering to was the Hoping Foundation, to raise money for schooling of Palestinian children. The song Gilmour wanted Waters to perform was To Know him, is to Love Him, a piece they used to play while sound checking back in the day. Both thought it was effing hilarious, giving all the writings about all the bad blood between them. I also agree on the production skills of the pair. They made the most of the diverse voices in the band. Something I think is missing in TFC, too much of Waters angst to make me stand the album in one go. However, today when they perform the old classics on their own, I prefer Gilmour's voice since I don't think Waters can sing at all. It's also worth to notice that on the recordings you always hear Gilmours backing vocals when Waters is credited with the vocals. Like in Shine On... And the greatest performances of them all is Roy Harper's.
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uduwudu
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Posted: July 11 2013 at 07:39 |
No Syd is an omission. Quite significant I think. But no Seamus either.
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Posted: July 11 2013 at 08:00 |
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maani
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Posted: July 11 2013 at 17:20 |
Roy Harper and Clare Tory.
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Codera the Great
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Posted: October 21 2013 at 10:49 |
I really enjoy the manic theatrics of Waters on The Wall and stuff like that a good deal, but I think I'm going to have to go with Gilmour overall, since he is a better "singer", displaying a greater range and showing much more consistency. Love his voice.
Edited by Codera the Great - October 21 2013 at 10:51
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Posted: October 22 2013 at 11:14 |
The Mystical wrote:
This poll includes the vocalists in Pink Floyd's most famous lineup. |
Syd Barrett!
His inflections were very theatrical and clean, and well done, while also being quite stirring and satirical.
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