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    Posted: June 28 2013 at 17:46
Well, it looks like Dean is going to go through with this. I've sort of wondered about this, the first thing I noticed in the trailors was the floating islands. Whether Dean's case has any weight is tough to tell. However scifi author Harlan Ellison successfully sued Cameron over Terminator's similarities to his Outer Limits episodes from the 60s.



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Lin Carter had floating islands long before Dean.
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^ please share Lin Carter's " art work"
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Anything that puts that arrogant schmuck Cameron in his place even just a little bit is A-OK with me!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2013 at 18:44
I don't think Sir Geekalot cares about plagiarism anymore, he probably figures "So sue me".    But I hope Mr. Dean makes back some of the lost money his hard work and imagination paid out to Cameron and his little beard.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote marktheshark Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2013 at 18:46
Originally posted by Knobby

Lin Carter had floating islands long before Dean.

Yes, I'm familiar with all that, but if you look at Dean's work as compared to Avatar, the similarities are beyond striking. And I don't just mean the islands but the landscapes, the dragons and arc formations of the rocks. Even Cameron admitted when asked if Dean had any influence on Avatar, he said "Maybe during my stoner days in the 70s." Or something to that effect.
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guys i invented fantasy/sci-fi
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Post Options Post Options   Quote The T Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2013 at 22:04
James Cameron's movies entertain me much more than Roger Dean's covers.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote The Truth Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2013 at 22:06
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil

guys i invented fantasy/sci-fi
Kind of my opinion. Floating islands are nothing any one person can claim as their's. Avatar and Dean's don't even look that similar.

Also who cares.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2013 at 22:08
Originally posted by The T

James Cameron's movies entertain me much more than Roger Dean's covers.

Maybe that's because Cameron's a thief.

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Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother

Anything that puts that arrogant schmuck Cameron in his place even just a little bit is A-OK with me!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Aussie-Byrd-Brother Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2013 at 22:24
Originally posted by HolyMoly


Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother

Anything that puts that arrogant schmuck Cameron in his place even just a little bit is A-OK with me!

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Wait, me or Cameron?!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2013 at 22:54
Originally posted by HolyMoly

Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother

Anything that puts that arrogant schmuck Cameron in his place even just a little bit is A-OK with me!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Snow Dog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2013 at 03:52
If Roger wins can no on be inspired by art again? This is such nonsense.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Chris S Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2013 at 05:24
Originally posted by Snow Dog

If Roger wins can no on be inspired by art again? This is such nonsense.

A good point, the same could be said for musicians influencing other musicianship. From day one though Avatar was pure plagiarism in terms of landscape. I hope RD gets due reward.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote marktheshark Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2013 at 08:25
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Originally posted by Snow Dog

If Roger wins can no on be inspired by art again? This is such nonsense.

A good point, the same could be said for musicians influencing other musicianship. From day one though Avatar was pure plagiarism in terms of landscape. I hope RD gets due reward.

Chuck Berry went after the Beach Boys for Surfin USA and the Beatles for Come Together. Even a suit could be brought on Cameron by Michael Blake who wrote Dances with Wolves, the stories are both pretty similar. But that may be stretching it.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Blacksword Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2013 at 08:55
Ridiculous. Did Dean 'patent' the concept of floating islands?

Sounds like an ego attack to me, or maybe Dean just needs some cash..
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Post Options Post Options   Quote thellama73 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2013 at 09:51
He should sue Cameron for making such a terrible movie, not for using an art style vaguely similar to his.

This is why I have a problem with IP law in general. The idea that you can "own" the concept of floating islands is ridiculous and bad for innovation.
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