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    Posted: June 28 2013 at 17:46
Well, it looks like Dean is going to go through with this. I've sort of wondered about this, the first thing I noticed in the trailors was the floating islands. Whether Dean's case has any weight is tough to tell. However scifi author Harlan Ellison successfully sued Cameron over Terminator's similarities to his Outer Limits episodes from the 60s.



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Lin Carter had floating islands long before Dean.
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^ please share Lin Carter's " art work"
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Points: 7951 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2013 at 18:25
Anything that puts that arrogant schmuck Cameron in his place even just a little bit is A-OK with me!

Enjoy that, `King of the world'.
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Points: 64338 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2013 at 18:44
I don't think Sir Geekalot cares about plagiarism anymore, he probably figures "So sue me".    But I hope Mr. Dean makes back some of the lost money his hard work and imagination paid out to Cameron and his little beard.
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Points: 1695 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2013 at 18:46
Originally posted by Knobby Knobby wrote:

Lin Carter had floating islands long before Dean.

Yes, I'm familiar with all that, but if you look at Dean's work as compared to Avatar, the similarities are beyond striking. And I don't just mean the islands but the landscapes, the dragons and arc formations of the rocks. Even Cameron admitted when asked if Dean had any influence on Avatar, he said "Maybe during my stoner days in the 70s." Or something to that effect.
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guys i invented fantasy/sci-fi
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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2013 at 22:04
James Cameron's movies entertain me much more than Roger Dean's covers.
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Points: 21795 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2013 at 22:06
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

guys i invented fantasy/sci-fi
Kind of my opinion. Floating islands are nothing any one person can claim as their's. Avatar and Dean's don't even look that similar.

Also who cares.
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Points: 64338 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2013 at 22:08
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

James Cameron's movies entertain me much more than Roger Dean's covers.

Maybe that's because Cameron's a thief.
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Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Anything that puts that arrogant schmuck Cameron in his place even just a little bit is A-OK with me!

Enjoy that, `King of the world'.
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Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:


Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Anything that puts that arrogant schmuck Cameron in his place even just a little bit is A-OK with me!

Enjoy that, `King of the world'.
Give 'im the Chair. THE CHAIR!

Wait, me or Cameron?!
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Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Anything that puts that arrogant schmuck Cameron in his place even just a little bit is A-OK with me!

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Points: 16952 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2013 at 23:19
Guess Rodger needs some money after becoming completely irrelevant. 
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If Roger wins can no on be inspired by art again? This is such nonsense.
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

If Roger wins can no on be inspired by art again? This is such nonsense.

A good point, the same could be said for musicians influencing other musicianship. From day one though Avatar was pure plagiarism in terms of landscape. I hope RD gets due reward.
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Points: 1695 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2013 at 08:25
Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:


Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

If Roger wins can no on be inspired by art again? This is such nonsense.

A good point, the same could be said for musicians influencing other musicianship. From day one though Avatar was pure plagiarism in terms of landscape. I hope RD gets due reward.

Chuck Berry went after the Beach Boys for Surfin USA and the Beatles for Come Together. Even a suit could be brought on Cameron by Michael Blake who wrote Dances with Wolves, the stories are both pretty similar. But that may be stretching it.
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Points: 16130 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2013 at 08:55
Ridiculous. Did Dean 'patent' the concept of floating islands?

Sounds like an ego attack to me, or maybe Dean just needs some cash..
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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2013 at 09:51
He should sue Cameron for making such a terrible movie, not for using an art style vaguely similar to his.

This is why I have a problem with IP law in general. The idea that you can "own" the concept of floating islands is ridiculous and bad for innovation.
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