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    Posted: July 12 2013 at 06:28
I find it interesting that no-one ever asked that question. which band do you consider to be the fastest prog band?

perhaps I should define what I mean by that. I don't mean "playing generally fast", on the contrary. I mean "which band can reach the highest speed in a song"? it does not matter if other passages of the song are slow or if the band is usually not that fast and only has one song in which they extremely speed up.

I don't  mean studio, by the way (you can speed up things with a lot of tricks there), I mean live. please give examples, best from YouTube or the likes. I have my own opinion on the topic, by the way, which will be surprising to many, but I will give examples.

oh, and just to make it clear: I am by no means of the opinion "faster is better". there is no general merit in playing extremely fast. but sometimes it can have an amazing effect


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Some pretty fast parts here
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Vitalij Kuprij keyboard parts with Artension are usually fast.  This sample is not their best thing, anyway. 



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Less metal, more prog....pretty fast




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after keyboard and bass, a bit of fast drums


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Another Speed freak
 
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"Less metal, more prog"
I'd like to see that on a t-shirt.
(...worn by me.)
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When music becomes sport, art dies. But it is dead long ago anyway. So... Doesn't surprise me to read all this.
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Originally posted by stf stf wrote:

"Less metal, more prog"
I'd like to see that on a t-shirt.
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If you find one, let me know, I'll also buy one.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BaldJean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2013 at 09:40
Octopus-4, I said "no studio recordings".

anyway, here is my choice:








(since this is a very long track, listen to the passge between the 30 and 40 minute mark)


(another long track, but should be heard in its entirety; it gets really really fast towards the end)

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Sorry, The thread title is so interesting that I haven't read your whole post. Ay least2 out of 3 were live...

I absolutely love Magma but I'm more in their studio things )a coincidence, not by choice)
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Originally posted by Hamlet Transportinae Hamlet Transportinae wrote:

When music becomes sport, art dies. But it is dead long ago anyway. So... Doesn't surprise me to read all this.

did you read my introductory post? I think I made it clear there what I think of playing fast in general

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Re groups live, the two I've seen (either live or on video) who seem to reach the highest speeds on occasion are Deus ex Machina and Dream Theater.  (Your Magma videos are great, though.)  There are some "thrash metal" bands who can attain speeds that are truly breath-taking (or absurd, depending on how you look at it...LOL).  I would say the fastest drummers (overall) I've heard (who are actually playing complicated parts, not just keeping a beat) are Claudio Trotta from Deus ex Machina, Mike Portnoy from Dream Theater, Carl Palmer, and the guy from Ruins.  Fastest guitarists would have to include McLaughlin, Holdsworth, Petrucci, and Fripp.
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Originally posted by maani maani wrote:

 Fastest guitarists would have to include McLaughlin, Holdsworth, Petrucci, and Fripp.

No argument there!  

John Goodsall of Brand X is another fret-burner...but I'd have to say that Petrucci is the fastest I've ever seen (I've been playing for over forty years!)
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by maani maani wrote:

 Fastest guitarists would have to include McLaughlin, Holdsworth, Petrucci, and Fripp.

No argument there!  

John Goodsall of Brand X is another fret-burner...but I'd have to say that Petrucci is the fastest I've ever seen (I've been playing for over forty years!)


Yes, Petruccci is some virtuoso, DT and many prog metal bands have some fast guitars players. But i don't think we should judge the quality of the music by this value only.
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Originally posted by maani maani wrote:

Re groups live, the two I've seen (either live or on video) who seem to reach the highest speeds on occasion are Deus ex Machina and Dream Theater.  (Your Magma videos are great, though.)  There are some "thrash metal" bands who can attain speeds that are truly breath-taking (or absurd, depending on how you look at it...LOL).  I would say the fastest drummers (overall) I've heard (who are actually playing complicated parts, not just keeping a beat) are Claudio Trotta from Deus ex Machina, Mike Portnoy from Dream Theater, Carl Palmer, and the guy from Ruins.  Fastest guitarists would have to include McLaughlin, Holdsworth, Petrucci, and Fripp.

well, the Magma stuff is definitely very complicated too. take for example the riff in the final section of "De Futura". it does sound easy, but it is very tricky

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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Sorry, The thread title is so interesting that I haven't read your whole post. Ay least2 out of 3 were live...

I absolutely love Magma but I'm more in their studio things )a coincidence, not by choice)


Magma's live work is absolutely unreal, even compared to their studio albums.

I misread the title as "fattest" and had thoughts of Chris Squire
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Sorry, The thread title is so interesting that I haven't read your whole post. Ay least2 out of 3 were live...

I absolutely love Magma but I'm more in their studio things )a coincidence, not by choice)


Magma's live work is absolutely unreal, even compared to their studio albums.

I misread the title as "fattest" and had thoughts of Chris Squire

Chris Squire and Greg Lake should start a band named "Fat Bass" LOL

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Gentle Giant sometimew pics up some spped while playin live version of Proclamation is breath- taking
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