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twosteves
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Posted: July 17 2013 at 07:43 | |||||
Love Bill, my favorite drummer--did you hear Genesis Live in Bern 76---while there are amazing parts that Bill plays--and his jams with Phil are great--there are some songs his powerful style doesn't completely work on---but still it's great to hear.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: July 17 2013 at 11:18 | |||||
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maani
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Posted: July 17 2013 at 19:41 | |||||
"I would say almost Seconds Out Genesis... if only they had released that album with Bill Bruford on drums it would have been great."
Actually, that's Bill on Cinema Show. Sadly, the only track he is on on that album. |
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: July 17 2013 at 20:08 | |||||
I was lucky enough to record an FM radio broadcast of a "Trick of the Tail" tour show with Mr B on drums. It was Christmas evening 1976 and I had just gotten a Radio Shack 8 track recorder that morning as a present. Unfortunately I never transferred the 8 track to cassette so the recording is long gone. One of the odd things I remember about the set list is they actually played "White Mountain". Years later I found a $50 2 CD bootleg from that tour but the sound quality was so awful I passed. A funny thing about those 1st few post-Gabriel tours, they would either play Suppers Ready or Cinema Show but never both. At the '78 show, Collins began the banter that always led to Suppers Ready but switched it up at the end and they played Cinema Show instead
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Dellinger
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Posted: July 17 2013 at 20:55 | |||||
Yeah, I know. But I believe there are recordings of whole shows with Bill Bruford. I don't really know why they didn't use them. Perhaps they just thought that he wasn't so well suited for the songs... |
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jacek1969
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Posted: July 18 2013 at 01:08 | |||||
Yes (Squire, Wakeman, Moraz, Howe), Genesis (Collins, Hackett), ELP, King Crimson (Fripp, Brufford and ...). I can't choose one band. Maybe Naked City or Henry Cow or The Jimi Hendrix Experience or....:P. Beauty lies in the fact that we have so many great bands.
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Rando
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Posted: July 18 2013 at 01:13 | |||||
Hmm, I don't know. I couldn't vote on this one. A little too subjective for me. Although Mahavishnu Orchestra or Steve Hackett might have been a better choice than Toto. |
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- Music is Life, that's why our hearts have beats -
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Josef_K
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Posted: July 18 2013 at 03:38 | |||||
Wow, White Mountain is one of my absolute favorites of Genesis and of HUGE nostalgic value since it is the first song by them I ever liked, long before I actually got into the band properly. Then again, with Phil on vocals I'm not sure I even want to hear that live version as it may just be a major disappointment...
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Leave the past to burn,
At least that's been his own - Peter Hammill |
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: July 18 2013 at 05:37 | |||||
I think you finally got it i.e. our opinions are NOT demonstrable facts, ergo they cannot be used to measure such phenomena as 'musicianship' - it's good fun to choose but no-one is qualified to decide |
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: July 18 2013 at 12:05 | |||||
I hear you, I hate what Phil Collins and the band became dragging the Genesis name through the mud, but I think he was still cool in the "Trick..." and "Wuthering..." days...the problem started when he shaved. No beard...Phil got weird
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Dellinger
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Posted: July 18 2013 at 21:37 | |||||
I actually like Phil Collins much better as a singer than Peter Gabriel. For me Collins is a very good singer, while I don't really like Gabriel at all, though I have learned to tolerate him. |
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Gerinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5091 |
Posted: July 19 2013 at 04:22 | |||||
We know that a poll is about opinions, not an algebra exercise. Nothing wrong with that.
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rogerthat
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Posted: July 19 2013 at 12:02 | |||||
I find it impossible to place the depth of KC's musicians, the multi instrumental virtuosity of GG, the flamboyance of ELP and the energy of Rush next to each other and attempt to judge which of these groups had the best musicians. Ultimately, trying to opine on this is only going to reveal more about your preferences and biases than where the musicians actually stand in terms of ability. So no vote, but my favourite musicians are those that made up Wetton-KC.
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Icarium
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Posted: July 19 2013 at 13:07 | |||||
Totos musicianship is found on 10 000 albums, if you count all the current and former main member of the band, i find that to be impressive not just as a fan of the band but as an objective view of what is impressive, that is impressive
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: July 19 2013 at 19:48 | |||||
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Icarium
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Posted: July 19 2013 at 19:55 | |||||
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: July 19 2013 at 20:15 | |||||
Oh yeah, the Toto video was cool to see - they are such precise musicians without a doubt, but not too proggy. Gyorgy Porgy is a great track, but they didn't do 'Hold The Line'.
Jefferson Starship were way cool around '79-'84.
Boz Scaggs, eh ?? I don't mind what I've heard of him.
I never did get into M.J. although 'Thriller' is about the best thing he ever did.
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Icarium
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Posted: July 19 2013 at 20:35 | |||||
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Mythical Mike
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Posted: July 20 2013 at 19:53 | |||||
I really like IQ's musicianship to choose one of the bands on the list.
I cannot believe that Camel is not on this list. They would have got my vote. |
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HackettFan
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Posted: July 21 2013 at 12:17 | |||||
1. King Crimson
2. Gentle Giant 3. ELP 4. Dream Theater 5. Genesis 6. Rush 7. Yes |
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