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    Posted: August 18 2013 at 08:24
Let's discuss a different classic album here each week.  Why are they so special?

Firstly, I want to know:
What's so special about "Close To The Edge"?

Next weekend we can discuss another highly rated album here, and eventually we'll give new prog fans an up-to-date list of reasons why so-and-so is at the top end of the PA ratings list
 
 
 
 
List of albums discussed in this topic.
 
page 1: Close To The Edge by Yes.
page 4: Thick As A Brick by Jethro Tull.
page 5: Selling England By The Pound by Genesis.
page 6: Dark Side Of The Moon by Pink Floyd.
pages 7 & 18: Red by King Crimson.
page 9: Brain Salad Surgery by ELP.
page 11: Godbluff by VDGG.
page 12: Per Un Amico by PFM.
page 14: Hemispheres by Rush.
page 14: Relayer by Yes.
page 15: Foxtrot by Genesis.
page 17: Playing The Fool by Gentle Giant.
page 17: Moonmadness by Camel.
page 19: Hamburger Concerto by Focus.
page 19: Autobahn by Kraftwerk.
page 20: In The Land Of Grey And Pink by Caravan.
page 21: Birds Of Fire by Mahavishnu Orchestra.
page 21: Si On Avait Besoin D'Une Cinquime Saison by Harmonium.
page 21: Wish You Were Here by Pink Floyd.
page 22: In The Court Of The Crimson King by King Crimson.
page 23: Tago Mago by Can.
page 23: Ommadawn by Mike Oldfield.
page 24: Rock Bottom by Robert Wyatt.
page 24: Hot Rats by Frank Zappa.
page 24: The Silent Corner And The Empty Stage by Peter Hammill.
page 25: Aqualung by Jethro Tull.
page 26: Flying Teapot by Gong.
page 26: Arbeit Macht Frei by Area.
page 26: Hatfield And The North by Hatfield And The North.
page 27: Rubycon by Tangerine Dream.
page 28: Crime Of The Century by Supertramp.
page 28: Voyage Of The Acolyte by Steve Hackett.
page 28: In A Glass House by Gentle Giant.
page 29: Leftoverture by Kansas.
page 30: Days Of Future Passed by The Moody Blues.
page 31: Spectrum by Billy Cobham.
page 31: Warrior On The Edge Of Time by Hawkwind.
page 31: Kind Of Blue by Miles Davis.
page 32: Io Sono Nato Libero by Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso.
page 32: Scheherazade And Other Stories by Renaissance.
page 33: Mkank Dstruktẁ Kmmandh by Magma.
page 33: Space Shanty by Khan.
page 34: First Utterance by Comus.

 

 




Edited by Stool Man - June 23 2014 at 04:48
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Nothing.
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Hi,
 
Along with Atom Heart Mother and Thick as a Brick, these three were the long cuts I loved listening to consistently and trip my head on.
 
I thought, and still do, that all three were marvelous despite history not being kind to them, with Roger trashing AHM as a way to tell Ron Geesin to stop asking for a dinner or two, and then CTTE was not exactly liked by most rock journalists, and was considered overblown and pretentious, probably the strong organ parts, that kinda showed that an organ could be used as a serious instrument and not sound like blues (the Hammond) or some kind of religious music.  I kinda felt that the stigma that the "organ" always showed religious music was stupid! TAAB was OK, but I'm not sure that some folks liked some comments on it. I rather think that people wanted to hear Ian blow out his 20 minute version of "My God" which was on several bootlegs, instead of a piece that no one understood, or knew what it was about!
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Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

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Overrated and supremely hyped album. Just like any other "progressive" rock album, by the way.
Let's be honest for once: who in one's right mind really enjoy the stuff by Pink Floyd, Genesis or King Crimson? Let's be serious!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2013 at 12:16
Jon Anderson
Bill Bruford
Steve Howe
Chris Squire
Rick Wakeman
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Neelus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2013 at 12:22
^  Brilliant post :)

Yeah, its the people, always the people.  If it works, it works. 

Close to the Edge is what it sounds like if you give really talented musicians the freedom to express themselves the way they want to, and boy did they take advantage of that.

They really did play well together these guys.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2013 at 12:35
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Jon Anderson
Bill Bruford
Steve Howe
Chris Squire
Rick Wakeman


Indeed, 5 of my very favourite prog musicians in the 70's... if not my very favourite, at their creative peak. Great music performed by excellent musicians. Everything in that album is perfect and varied and fresh. Hardly ever has there been such a line-up where every musician is at the top of their instruments, and none of them was weaker than the rest of the band.
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I apply the following to all pieces of music:

Don't expect one group of people to understand and appreciate what the other group enjoys. Some people like it for one subset of things, others like it for another subset of things. Don't try to figure out this mystery. If you are really interested in this kind of things, study sociomusicology. Otherwise, would you like to discuss it in clinical terms (merits)? Because I personally don't care for the terms themselves. I can't explain why I really like the chorus to GG's "So Sincere". And we have a word for it that lets us off so easily in many discussions - subtlety. "I don't know what it is that I love about it; it's just so subtle!"

I guess all I'm saying is that you are asking for an answer that is perchance beyond the scope of a thread. Don't try to figure it out. If it doesn't work for ya, then it doesn't work for ya. Let it go or try again later. In my view music is about experience, not the formulaic music theory itself.

Edited by Dayvenkirq - August 18 2013 at 12:44
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It's simply "close to the edge of perfection"...
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.
― Frank Zappa

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Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Overrated and supremely hyped album. Just like any other "progressive" rock album, by the way.
Let's be honest for once: who in one's right mind really enjoy the stuff by Pink Floyd, Genesis or King Crimson? Let's be serious!

Ermm? I do, along with the majority of prog rock fans, and a great many music fans as well.

Am I missing some kind of ironical statement here?Confused


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Clap CLOSE TO THE EDGE
Clap AND YOU AND I
ClapSIBERIAN KHATRU 
           Nuff said .
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Man With Hat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2013 at 16:30
The title track.
Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dayvenkirq Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2013 at 16:33
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:


Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Overrated and supremely hyped album. Just like any other "progressive" rock album, by the way.Let's be honest for once: who in one's right mind really enjoy the stuff by Pink Floyd, Genesis or King Crimson? Let's be serious!


Ermm? I do, along with the majority of prog rock fans, and a great many music fans as well.
Am I missing some kind of ironical statement here?Confused
I'm pretty sure it was sarcasm. Keep working on it, Cap'n.
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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:


Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Overrated and supremely hyped album. Just like any other "progressive" rock album, by the way.Let's be honest for once: who in one's right mind really enjoy the stuff by Pink Floyd, Genesis or King Crimson? Let's be serious!


Ermm? I do, along with the majority of prog rock fans, and a great many music fans as well.
Am I missing some kind of ironical statement here?Confused
I'm pretty sure it was sarcasm. Keep working on it, Cap'n.


I let you know that 50% of my posts are sarcasms, 50% are silly jokes, and the other 50% are serious.
The quota would depend on the context: stating that Pink Floyd, Yes, Genesis and King Crismon are overrated bands on a forum dedicated to progressive rock could lead reader to think that this post is pure sarcasm, with mild silliness inside.
Except for Pink Floyd. I still prefer Close To The Edge to Dark Side of the Moon. Stern Smile
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Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

The title track.

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Siberian Cthulhu. 

One of my favorites Yes compositions.
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Originally posted by Neelus Neelus wrote:



Close to the Edge is what it sounds like if you give really talented musicians the freedom to express themselves the way they want to, and boy did they take advantage of that.

They really did play well together these guys.

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......the album cover.......Headbanger
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr prog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2013 at 03:32
3 cool songs. It's not like any album written after 1983 can reach this quality
All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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