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timothy leary
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Posted: September 26 2013 at 10:27 |
^ sorry did not mean to derail the thread.
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dr wu23
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Posted: September 26 2013 at 16:07 |
timothy leary wrote:
^ sorry did not mean to derail the thread. |
I don't think you derailed anything.......the thread bounces, after everyone gets their licks in, from one well known/well liked lp to the next.
I'm too lazy to read thru the last 10 pages to see if it was mentioned , but I was going to ask what's so special about Yes-TFTO.
Edited by dr wu23 - September 26 2013 at 16:10
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Polymorphia
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Posted: September 26 2013 at 16:17 |
dr wu23 wrote:
Polymorphia wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
Horizons wrote:
His solo stuff is better than a lot of PT output.
But I think we're supposed to discuss BSS |
BSS and ELP have been discussed to death on the forum......but then I suppose the same can be aid about Wilson and PT.
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Right now, Keith Emerson is grasping his chest, his doctor fuming about those effing prog fans discussing his client to death.
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Well...his client should have died before releasing Love Beach.
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I think ELP released Love Beach for their own health.
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dr wu23
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Posted: September 26 2013 at 16:22 |
Polymorphia wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
Polymorphia wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
Horizons wrote:
His solo stuff is better than a lot of PT output.
But I think we're supposed to discuss BSS |
BSS and ELP have been discussed to death on the forum......but then I suppose the same can be aid about Wilson and PT.
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Right now, Keith Emerson is grasping his chest, his doctor fuming about those effing prog fans discussing his client to death.
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Well...his client should have died before releasing Love Beach.
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And that would be their financial health.
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HolyMoly
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Posted: September 26 2013 at 16:30 |
dr wu23 wrote:
Polymorphia wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
Polymorphia wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
Horizons wrote:
His solo stuff is better than a lot of PT output.
But I think we're supposed to discuss BSS |
BSS and ELP have been discussed to death on the forum......but then I suppose the same can be aid about Wilson and PT.
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Right now, Keith Emerson is grasping his chest, his doctor fuming about those effing prog fans discussing his client to death.
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Well...his client should have died before releasing Love Beach.
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And that would be their financial health.
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It was probably nice to get some sun for a change too.
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Stool Man
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Posted: September 27 2013 at 07:47 |
dr wu23 wrote:
timothy leary wrote:
^ sorry did not mean to derail the thread. |
I don't think you derailed anything.......the thread bounces, after everyone gets their licks in, from one well known/well liked lp to the next.
I'm too lazy to read thru the last 10 pages to see if it was mentioned , but I was going to ask what's so special about Yes-TFTO.
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We'll get to that eventually - possibly after Relayer or Fragile?
I've just updated the first post on page 1 with a list of which albums have been discussed. It'll come in very useful if this becomes an extremely lengthy topic.
Edited by Stool Man - September 27 2013 at 07:55
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dr wu23
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Posted: September 27 2013 at 09:57 |
Stool Man wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
timothy leary wrote:
^ sorry did not mean to derail the thread. |
I don't think you derailed anything.......the thread bounces, after everyone gets their licks in, from one well known/well liked lp to the next.
I'm too lazy to read thru the last 10 pages to see if it was mentioned , but I was going to ask what's so special about Yes-TFTO.
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We'll get to that eventually - possibly after Relayer or Fragile?
I've just updated the first post on page 1 with a list of which albums have been discussed. It'll come in very useful if this becomes an extremely lengthy topic. |
Ok then.....thanks for that.
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Stool Man
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Posted: September 30 2013 at 10:59 |
what's so special about Godbluff?
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Neo-Romantic
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Posted: September 30 2013 at 14:09 |
Dude, I'm always jumping at the chance to be as obnoxious as possible in heaping praise upon this critical achievement in music history! I love this album so much.
Fanboy outburst aside, it's one of the most emotional, intriguing, and texturally rich albums I've ever heard. It's the pinnacle example of an album in which the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, but each part alone is already a masterpiece in its own right. The playing is both technically stunning and emotionally inspired. The lyrics are smart, thought-provoking, and even heart-wrenching at times with their imagery. The music compliments them so well too. Even the sounds of the instruments themselves do wonders to enhance the listening experience. There is not a single flaw or low point on the entire album. In short, it's a dark, abrasive listen, but one that sports the best balance of evolution and diversity in any album I've ever heard. It's a monumental offering from my personal favorite prog group. Red may still be my favorite album, but Godbluff is still perfect too and a ridiculously close second.
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Posted: September 30 2013 at 15:52 |
Neo-Romantic wrote:
Dude, I'm always jumping at the chance to be as obnoxious as possible in heaping praise upon this critical achievement in music history! I love this album so much.
Fanboy outburst aside, it's one of the most emotional, intriguing, and texturally rich albums I've ever heard. It's the pinnacle example of an album in which the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, but each part alone is already a masterpiece in its own right. The playing is both technically stunning and emotionally inspired. The lyrics are smart, thought-provoking, and even heart-wrenching at times with their imagery. The music compliments them so well too. Even the sounds of the instruments themselves do wonders to enhance the listening experience. There is not a single flaw or low point on the entire album. In short, it's a dark, abrasive listen, but one that sports the best balance of evolution and diversity in any album I've ever heard. It's a monumental offering from my personal favorite prog group. Red may still be my favorite album, but Godbluff is still perfect too and a ridiculously close second. |
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dr wu23
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Posted: September 30 2013 at 23:15 |
Stool Man wrote:
what's so special about Godbluff? |
Wait a minute...I thought you implied we were doing more Yes albums.....
oh....and there is nothing special about Godbluff.....and Hammil can't sing his way out of a paper bag.
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dr wu23
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Posted: September 30 2013 at 23:17 |
Neo-Romantic wrote:
Dude, I'm always jumping at the chance to be as obnoxious as possible in heaping praise upon this critical achievement in music history! I love this album so much.
Fanboy outburst aside, it's one of the most emotional, intriguing, and texturally rich albums I've ever heard. It's the pinnacle example of an album in which the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, but each part alone is already a masterpiece in its own right. The playing is both technically stunning and emotionally inspired. The lyrics are smart, thought-provoking, and even heart-wrenching at times with their imagery. The music compliments them so well too. Even the sounds of the instruments themselves do wonders to enhance the listening experience. There is not a single flaw or low point on the entire album.
In short, it's a dark, abrasive listen, but one that sports the best balance of evolution and diversity in any album I've ever heard. It's a monumental offering from my personal favorite prog group. Red may still be my favorite album, but Godbluff is still perfect too and a ridiculously close second. |
Just curious...but have you ever had your hearing checked by a competent audiologist.
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Posted: September 30 2013 at 23:17 |
Another album I don't know anything about.... The only thing I have of VdGG is a compilation.
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Neo-Romantic
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Posted: October 01 2013 at 00:13 |
dr wu23 wrote:
Neo-Romantic wrote:
Dude, I'm always jumping at the chance to be as obnoxious as possible in heaping praise upon this critical achievement in music history! I love this album so much.
Fanboy outburst aside, it's one of the most emotional, intriguing, and texturally rich albums I've ever heard. It's the pinnacle example of an album in which the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, but each part alone is already a masterpiece in its own right. The playing is both technically stunning and emotionally inspired. The lyrics are smart, thought-provoking, and even heart-wrenching at times with their imagery. The music compliments them so well too. Even the sounds of the instruments themselves do wonders to enhance the listening experience. There is not a single flaw or low point on the entire album.
In short, it's a dark, abrasive listen, but one that sports the best balance of evolution and diversity in any album I've ever heard. It's a monumental offering from my personal favorite prog group. Red may still be my favorite album, but Godbluff is still perfect too and a ridiculously close second. |
Just curious...but have you ever had your hearing checked by a competent audiologist.
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The central caveat of music appreciation is remembering that subjectivity reigns supreme My hearing is totally functional. I just love his style Totally aware though that it's polarizing and don't question the taste of people on the other side of the fence. I just admire the fact that he and the pand are powerful enough to warrant such strong opinions, good or bad. The worst fate that can befall any work of art in my book is complete and total indifference. Then it's insignificant. Of course I just gave an argument why Godbluff and VDGG are plenty special, whether you like them or not
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Posted: October 01 2013 at 00:59 |
I think what's so special about Godbluff is that after a 3 year hiatus, VDGG came back with a completely different statement of what it meant to be a prog band in the mid 70's. The band came back with a much harder edge. Hugh Banton traded his reverb drenched cathedral organ sounds for a nasty, in your face electronic organ tone. Guy Evans leaned more rock than jazz. Jaxon was about the same (completely insane). And PH, what happened to him in those 3 years? He cut all his hair off, dropped the lyrics about emporers and lighthouse keepers and just went for the throat with a raw vocal style no one thought he could pull off. His smooth high falsetto sounded even more angelic compared with his guttural growls. I think Godbluff was the 1st prog album of it's time - maybe the only one - to incorporate angry punk sensibilities in a 10+ minute song format. It's a masterpiece.
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richardh
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Posted: October 01 2013 at 01:35 |
I've only had Godbluff for about 3 months but the organ sound is what stands out for me.. and perhaps also the drumming. Hammill sounds his usual demented self which will scare old ladies and small children. Overall its pretty decent to my ears but I can't wax lyrical about it just yet.
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timothy leary
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Posted: October 01 2013 at 09:54 |
Neo-Romantic wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
Neo-Romantic wrote:
Dude, I'm always jumping at the chance to be as obnoxious as possible in heaping praise upon this critical achievement in music history! I love this album so much.
Fanboy outburst aside, it's one of the most emotional, intriguing, and texturally rich albums I've ever heard. It's the pinnacle example of an album in which the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, but each part alone is already a masterpiece in its own right. The playing is both technically stunning and emotionally inspired. The lyrics are smart, thought-provoking, and even heart-wrenching at times with their imagery. The music compliments them so well too. Even the sounds of the instruments themselves do wonders to enhance the listening experience. There is not a single flaw or low point on the entire album.
In short, it's a dark, abrasive listen, but one that sports the best balance of evolution and diversity in any album I've ever heard. It's a monumental offering from my personal favorite prog group. Red may still be my favorite album, but Godbluff is still perfect too and a ridiculously close second. |
Just curious...but have you ever had your hearing checked by a competent audiologist.
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The central caveat of music appreciation is remembering that subjectivity reigns supreme My hearing is totally functional. I just love his style Totally aware though that it's polarizing and don't question the taste of people on the other side of the fence. I just admire the fact that he and the pand are powerful enough to warrant such strong opinions, good or bad. The worst fate that can befall any work of art in my book is complete and total indifference. Then it's insignificant. Of course I just gave an argument why Godbluff and VDGG are plenty special, whether you like them or not |
And he gave no argument to the contrary other than to question your ears, lame. That is why these threads usually devolve into ignorance.
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dr wu23
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Posted: October 01 2013 at 11:50 |
Neo-Romantic wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
Neo-Romantic wrote:
Dude, I'm always jumping at the chance to be as obnoxious as possible in heaping praise upon this critical achievement in music history! I love this album so much.
Fanboy outburst aside, it's one of the most emotional, intriguing, and texturally rich albums I've ever heard. It's the pinnacle example of an album in which the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, but each part alone is already a masterpiece in its own right. The playing is both technically stunning and emotionally inspired. The lyrics are smart, thought-provoking, and even heart-wrenching at times with their imagery. The music compliments them so well too. Even the sounds of the instruments themselves do wonders to enhance the listening experience. There is not a single flaw or low point on the entire album.
In short, it's a dark, abrasive listen, but one that sports the best balance of evolution and diversity in any album I've ever heard. It's a monumental offering from my personal favorite prog group. Red may still be my favorite album, but Godbluff is still perfect too and a ridiculously close second. | Just curious...but have you ever had your hearing checked by a competent audiologist.
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The central caveat of music appreciation is remembering that subjectivity reigns supreme
My hearing is totally functional. I just love his style Totally aware though that it's polarizing and don't question the taste of people on the other side of the fence. I just admire the fact that he and the pand are powerful enough to warrant such strong opinions, good or bad. The worst fate that can befall any work of art in my book is complete and total indifference. Then it's insignificant.
Of course I just gave an argument why Godbluff and VDGG are plenty special, whether you like them or not |
I understand and I was just 'taking the piss' as the Brits would say.
I like the music by VDGG, it's just Hammil's vocals that bother me.
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dr wu23
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Posted: October 01 2013 at 11:53 |
timothy leary wrote:
Neo-Romantic wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
Neo-Romantic wrote:
Dude, I'm always jumping at the chance to be as obnoxious as possible in heaping praise upon this critical achievement in music history! I love this album so much.
Fanboy outburst aside, it's one of the most emotional, intriguing, and texturally rich albums I've ever heard. It's the pinnacle example of an album in which the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, but each part alone is already a masterpiece in its own right. The playing is both technically stunning and emotionally inspired. The lyrics are smart, thought-provoking, and even heart-wrenching at times with their imagery. The music compliments them so well too. Even the sounds of the instruments themselves do wonders to enhance the listening experience. There is not a single flaw or low point on the entire album.
In short, it's a dark, abrasive listen, but one that sports the best balance of evolution and diversity in any album I've ever heard. It's a monumental offering from my personal favorite prog group. Red may still be my favorite album, but Godbluff is still perfect too and a ridiculously close second. | Just curious...but have you ever had your hearing checked by a competent audiologist.
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The central caveat of music appreciation is remembering that subjectivity reigns supreme
My hearing is totally functional. I just love his style Totally aware though that it's polarizing and don't question the taste of people on the other side of the fence. I just admire the fact that he and the pand are powerful enough to warrant such strong opinions, good or bad. The worst fate that can befall any work of art in my book is complete and total indifference. Then it's insignificant.
Of course I just gave an argument why Godbluff and VDGG are plenty special, whether you like them or not |
And he gave no argument to the contrary other than to question your ears, lame. That is why these threads usually devolve into ignorance. |
Argument to the contrary....? Ignorance...?
You are starting to sound like our resident board curmudgeon.
btw.....as I pointed out I was poking the bear.
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Posted: October 01 2013 at 13:27 |
I played Scorched Earth for a young drummer who had never heard VdGG before, and what really impressed him was they way they were playing for the band as a whole. If you love flashy solos, there are plenty of other bands you can listen to.
If I’m not mistaken, VdGG performed these four outstanding songs live several times before they recorded the album. That’s probably a good idea; they sound tight and confident from the first whisper to the last wailing.
To my ears Godbluff is close to perfection. And my hearing isn’t that bad; at least I can still hear the cicadas.
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