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    Posted: December 15 2013 at 00:02
Beauties. ^. Nothing like interactive topographies. ;)

Thanks mr. Cstack3.
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This is great!!  

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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Disapprove Hasn't Ozzie tortured enough bats for one lifetime?
You shouldn't talk about Sharon like that.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote chopper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2013 at 07:33
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Disapprove Hasn't Ozzie tortured enough bats for one lifetime?
You shouldn't talk about Sharon like that.
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Originally posted by The Mystical The Mystical wrote:

Tales is such an inspired, fulfilling, and spiritual album. Some day I wish to meet Jon in person.

Go to one of his solo shows, you will be able to meet him!  He's a sweet guy.  When I saw his "Voice of Yes" show, Jon played "The Revealing Science of God" solo, playing an electronic keyboard!!  Amazing!Clap
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Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Originally posted by The Mystical The Mystical wrote:

Tales is such an inspired, fulfilling, and spiritual album. Some day I wish to meet Jon in person.


Hey. I hear if you listen to the Tales album 40 times in a row, Jon Anderson will appear above your bedroom window.

 
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But you also have to repeat his name 3 times out load.
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Disapprove Hasn't Ozzie tortured enough bats for one lifetime?
"You know what uranium is, right?
Itís this thing called nuclear weapons.
And other things.
Like lots of things are done with uranium.
Including some bad things.
But nobody talks about that."
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Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Originally posted by The Mystical The Mystical wrote:

Tales is such an inspired, fulfilling, and spiritual album. Some day I wish to meet Jon in person.


Hey. I hear if you listen to the Tales album 40 times in a row, Jon Anderson will appear above your bedroom window.


Hang on, I'm busy playing Black Sabbath at 78 speed at the moment Evil Smile
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Originally posted by The Mystical The Mystical wrote:

Tales is such an inspired, fulfilling, and spiritual album. Some day I wish to meet Jon in person.


Hey. I hear if you listen to the Tales album 40 times in a row, Jon Anderson will appear above your bedroom window.

Raving and drooling I leaned on his neck with a screeeeeeeamm! ;)
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Tales is such an inspired, fulfilling, and spiritual album. Some day I wish to meet Jon in person.
I am currently digging:

Hawkwind, Rare Bird, Gong, Tangerine Dream, Khan, Iron Butterfly, and all things canterbury and hard-psych. I also love jazz!

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Wow!  I'm old.

Tales is my favorite Yes album of all time.  I wore out 2 LP's.  All 4 sides are an essential part of my mp3 collection to this day.  Funny thing is Relayer is my second favorite Yes album and it was cool to find out it was inspired so-to-speak by Tales.

Awesome stuff.

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Bruford on Tales would have made it a completely different album---JA said at the time he wanted Yes to make a more down to earth funky sound like "The Band"---but Tales The Ancient never sounded like Music from Big Pink to me LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote chopper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2013 at 06:59
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Speaking of Mr B, I always wondered what Tales would have been like with him behind the drum kit Wink

better as it would have suited him more perhaps?

Alan White peaked on Drama imo . I love that album. Both drummers great of course in their own different ways. Listen to Rick Wakeman Six Wives and you can see the respective strengths of the two of them utilsed perfectly 
I've often wondered the same thing, but I do think White's drumming on TFTO is brilliant.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Speaking of Mr B, I always wondered what Tales would have been like with him behind the drum kit Wink

better as it would have suited him more perhaps?


I think Bruford would have excelled on the first 3 pieces, especially "The Ancient"...and though never a big Alan White fan, I'll admit that "Ritual" required a power drummer like White rather a more finesse player like Mr B.  Still, it's one of my favourite prog "what if's" Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The-time-is-now Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2013 at 14:55
Very interesting ! Thanks a lot for posting these links.


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Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Speaking of Mr B, I always wondered what Tales would have been like with him behind the drum kit Wink

better as it would have suited him more perhaps?

Alan White peaked on Drama imo . I love that album. Both drummers great of course in their own different ways. Listen to Rick Wakeman Six Wives and you can see the respective strengths of the two of them utilsed perfectly 
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Speaking of Mr B, I always wondered what Tales would have been like with him behind the drum kit Wink
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

I think if Bill Brufford (or Mickey Mouse come to that) writes in his AUTObiography that he wanted to play Jazz then I too would assume he meant something entirely different.
 
 
  
...and still the hits keep coming.
 
What he might consider jazz, might not get as much exposure out there ... and I'm only comparing it to the more traditional jazz that we can find on radio, in LA, SF and Seattle, and even here in Portland. The stuff, for which one could easily incorporate Canterbury and other stuff, is not even played or considered here, which I find sad, and I have let these folks here know it ... heck, I think it was 6 years ago, that the Mount Hood Jazz Festival had the chance to bring in Bill Bruford, with some folks, but decided that the music wasn't traditional enough!
 
Kinda mentality we have to fight around here!
 
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Back to "Tales from Topographic Oceans" - which side is your favorite, and why? 

I go back & forth, and "The Revealing Science of God" always stirs me...however, I've also always loved side 2, "The Remembering!"  Squire plays fretless bass on this, and they really cook when they sing "Relayer....all the dying cried before you!" 

I used to not like "The Ancient" very much, but it grew on me after repeated listenings.  It is still my least favorite side.  

An amazing album!  
Side 1 - Revealing Science is the only side I think that really works for me. I have always been somewhat disappointed in TFTO. I think it would have made a better single lp with the tracks cut down to 10 minutes each.
While I do like many of the sections within the other sides  imho there is quite a bit of  filler where they just seem to wander with nothing interesting happening at times in an avant garde manner .
I have always preferred more concrete song structures like on the Yes lp, Fragile, and Close. It seems like they create a decent 'melodic theme' on each side of TFTO but then they wander off into sections that just don't grab my attention and it just goes on too long for my tastes. As many have said Relayer was a return to a more 'classic'  sound and a better batch of songs....period.
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Thanks very much for linking the article, cstack, was very interesting! Love this album, even for its few flaws. It just has such a sense of wholeness and beauty. The Revealing is my favourite, as it is for many others, it's possibly the most well arranged Yes epic, the arrangement of themes & sections is sublime. The Remembering is fantastic, including the lengthy opening sections, I really enjoy it, and the keyboard breaks are one of the best keyboard moments in prog. The Ancient is my least favourite, it's very cool & percussive but kinda lacks that sense of cohesion. Ritual is pretty great as well, especially the end, but I don't like it as much as I used to.


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Hi,

There was an article on The Oregonian almost a year ago, I think, that was upset that the Portland Symphony did not have enough attention and was not selling enough tickets. So I wrote a response to The Oregonian and the person who wrote that ... who gets free tickets to the Symphony, btw!!! ... and told him that the folks needed to get more modern and interesting ... and stop just doing shows with Pink Martini ... which appear to be the ones that get them the best money.
 
I even suggested, some Frank Zappa, Yes, Jethro Tull (TAAB or PP) ... and even Deep Purple's opus.
 
I never got a reply/suggestion, but the idea is pretty obvious ... they are not interested in the youngsters that don't care about yet another Bach recital this weekend to celebrate the death of his stepson ... PDQ! And no humor! That editorial was not well done and if I was an editor I would have gotten an opposing view by a rock reviewer, of which they have a lot of them ... that love that traditional jazz around here!
 
Even in Germany, they have done a day of Edgar Froese music with an orchestra ... it's coming ... but some of these folks are afraid of stepping aside from the stuff they know too much ... and learn from the stuff they don't know, which in the case of Portland is ... don't want to know because it's not music!


I don't know about the Portland Symphony, but the vast majority of orchestras these days certainly play plenty of non-classical concerts, from supporting popular artists (ie, like Gurrumul playing with the Sydney Symphony), or pops concerts, or the like. Players are certainly accustomed to playing that material- they're not afraid of it- but of course they like it less than playing the classical repertoire- to classical musicians, the kind of feeling that comes from playing those phenomenal works is incomparable, and though they usually enjoy playing the other stuff, it's never going to match most of the time.
As fantastic as a concert dedicated to Yes (or otherwise) arrangements would be, I also find it highly unlikely that such a concert would be sudden cash cow for them, as much as we prog fans might like to think, I'm not sure the support is quite there.
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