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    Posted: September 19 2013 at 05:32
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2013 at 05:41
You cannot stop for even just a few days can you? 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2013 at 09:16
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

You cannot stop for even just a few days can you? 


OK no problem to slown down my sugestions as I always did when The Special Colaborators asked me that, but  what about this awesome band from Ukraine which is already suggested?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2013 at 09:25
If you can provide some real information about this band then they may be considered, otherwise we are just going to ignore them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2013 at 11:35
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

If you can provide some real information about this band then they may be considered, otherwise we are just going to ignore them.
That's all what I find on the web about the band.
I don't know Ukraine nor Russian language, so I'm not able to check their sites.
I'm really sorry, Dean.
Well, what to do.... I hope that somebody else will make a better suggestion of Gravitsapa than I already did.


p.s. there are several more Gravisapa's live recorded videos at Youtube, though.





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2013 at 12:20
^ This just one of the many points I have been trying to make - if these bands have such a tiny web-presence then they are not the kind band we are looking for, if the only web-footprint they have was created by themselves then we should not be forced to spend any time on them, if no other progressive rock archive, review site or forum mentions them then we do not need to be the first, if their following on the social networks is non-existant (or less than 100ish people) then they are the modern equivalent of "unsigned" and nothing to do with us.
 
Sorry to be so blunt, but that is how it is. If you cannot find any information on them, then we will not be able to either - we have no special researching skills, we have to spend our free time searching the internet for information that isn't there.
 
The situation now is a small amatuer band who plays to 20 people in a village hall in the back of beyond (just outside Basingstoke) can be on Bandcamp and SoundCloud, and have a YouTube channel and Facebook, MySpace and LastFM pages - and you find them and suggest them here and we reject them, after we've spent time giving them the same evaluation as we would give a professional, signed band that has a following of 1000s of fans. The difference between those two bands is not in Bandcamp, or YouTube or Facebook - it is in the rest of the internet - it is the fan pages and the unsolicited reviews of their work, it is in the gig-guides and album releases. The other band will have a web-presence that they did not create themselves, the local village band with only 20 fans will not.
 
You cannot find any information on Gravitsapa because they have a tiny web presence, they do not have any web-content they did not create themselves, and that is as good as saying they are "unsigned" as far as the PA is concerned.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2013 at 04:47
Hi, Svetonio, thanks for the suggestin Gravitsapa to the Prog Archives.
Hi, Dan. I am a member of Gravitsapa. Svetonio asked me to give some information about my band.
Here it is:

-genre: math rock, avant-prog, experimental rock

-bio:
Gravitsapa is a Ukrainian band formed in 2005. The band recorded two mini-albums: Radio Free Albemuth in 2009, which was released in 2013 by HYSM? label under the name Free Radio Taxipod, and Vulgata also released by labels HYSM? and Skrot Up in 2013.Gravitsapa is a Ukrainian band formed in 2005. The band recorded two mini-albums: Radio Free Albemuth in 2009, which was released in 2013 by HYSM? label under the name Free Radio Taxipod, and Vulgata also released by labels HYSM? and Skrot Up in 2013.
Listeners and critics praised Gravitsapa as the pioneers of the Ukrainian math-rock stage perfoming among the most brightful experimental sounds.
The band has taken its namе after the Soviet cult film "Kin-Dza-Dza!" depicting post-apocalyptic anti-Utopia. The major theme of Gravitsapa's work can be described in three words: mysticism, sci-fi and absurdness.
Loyalty to a one style is not an attitude to music for Gravitsapa. "A one successful experiment performed in a track to be not repeated in the other" seems to be the band's motto. Only eternal escape from the cliché, emission of otherworldly atmosphere and attempts to create music as a tool to enter a trance.
At this stage the band is moving towards Shostakovich-rock and neo-neoshamanism.

- line-up
Sasha Jabovsky - guitar, voice
Taras Lavriv -  guitar, voice
Andrey Pechatkin - bass
Nazar Vasko - drums

-links:
http://gravitsapa.bandcamp.com/

   Labels:
   HYSM? - http://www.haveyousaidmidi.blogspot.com/
   Skrot Up - http://skrotup.bandcamp.com/album/vulgata

- discography:
Radio Free Taxipod - 2009
01. Ghola Tleilaxu (1:42)
02. Raped Europe-U (2:08)
03. Zubrytskyi Olezhyk's Terrible Metamorphoses (2:04)
04. Fish (2:47)

Vulgata - 2013
01. Our home Antarctida (3:37)
02. Under the Poltva (3:19)
03. Cramola (2:42)
04. It's Unicron. The first initiation (2:04)
05. We all (5:57)

- influences:
Jim Black, Sergei Prokofiev, Dmitri Shostakovich, Igor Stravinsky, Georgy Sviridov, Robert Fripp

- reviews:
http://www.dontspreadbullsh*tspreadmusic.com/radio-free-taxipod-gravitsapa/
http://fouriertransform.com/home/165-new-good-band-gravitsapa


P.S.  Maybe I missed something, please correct me (if it is still relevant).
Best regards
Sasha Jabovsky
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2013 at 04:50
sorry, one link is not working ... now it's ok
http://www.dontspreadbullsh*tspreadmusic.com/radio-free-taxipod-gravitsapa/

(EDIT: Please replace the aster with "i". Wink)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2013 at 04:53
the problem is of obscene name of the site
http://www.dontspreadbullsh*tspreadmusic.com

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2013 at 18:09
Welcome Sasha. Hug

I've checked your stuffs (good ones indeed) and felt they can be fitter for Math than Avant.

Tossed to Math Team.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2013 at 03:43
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2013 at 17:11
Hi Sasha, thanks for the bump - never saw this thread back in September when it was passed to the Math Team - i apologize. 

I'll will start listening to the albums on your bandcamp and update here once done. Thanks again for your patience your aid. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2013 at 13:58
Alrighty. Honestly while i hear some Math influences, like Sasha mentioned to call this band "just" MR isn't doing them justice. 

Unless there is someone that strongly disagrees, i say Eclectic is a better fit. 

Them labeling themselves as a mix of Math-rock, avant, and experimental rock is pretty damn accurate. Just my opinion. Other thoughts or listeners? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2013 at 00:47
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Alrighty. Honestly while i hear some Math influences, like Sasha mentioned to call this band "just" MR isn't doing them justice. 

Unless there is someone that strongly disagrees, i say Eclectic is a better fit. 

Them labeling themselves as a mix of Math-rock, avant, and experimental rock is pretty damn accurate. Just my opinion. Other thoughts or listeners? 
No, not Eclectic Prog. 
They are Avant.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2013 at 01:11
Arguing about where bands fit is not helpful and only adds to the time taken to evaluate them. We do not seek the exact fit but a best fit - if a band is worthy of addition and can fit in one of two, three or four subgenres then it does not matter which one they go in - let the reviews speak for the music, that is why we are here after all - reviewing albums not piddling about pigeon-holing bands into musicological subcategories.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2013 at 12:43
Makes sense, my bad. 

Alrighty, if they were passed to Math then let's just add them there. Whenever the artist is added i'll add the albums and whatnot. 

Thanks again, Dean. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2013 at 23:12
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

(...)   Alrighty, if they were passed to Math then let's just add them there   (....) 

Math is OK. Cheers, Horizons! Sasha, congratulations on your entry in Prog Archives Beer
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 18 2013 at 01:38
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Makes sense, my bad. 

Alrighty, if they were passed to Math then let's just add them there. Whenever the artist is added i'll add the albums and whatnot. 

Thanks again, Dean. 
Only if you think they can fit in Math.

I said:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

if a band is worthy of addition and can fit in one of two, three or four subgenres then it does not matter which one they go in.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 18 2013 at 01:39
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

(...)   Alrighty, if they were passed to Math then let's just add them there   (....) 

Math is OK. Cheers, Horizons! Sasha, congratulations on your entry in Prog Archives Beer
Not so fast - wait for the team to decide, not the opinion of one person. This is a democratic process.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 18 2013 at 03:11
Let the reviews speaks for the music.
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