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Awesome. Sad about no Belew though.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Man With Hat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2013 at 20:27
Originally posted by infandous infandous wrote:

Yeah, according to Fripp there are no plans for new material, just "reconfigured" versions of existing material.  I suspect that will change once they are up and running.  We'll see.http://www.uncut.co.uk/king-crimson-unveil-new-line-up-and-2014-tour-plans-news



I certainly hope new material will surface at some point.

At the very least I hope they officially release physical something if all they are going to do is tour. The three drummers thing is still too good a prospect to just throw away like that.
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I'm confident there will be a new album in the very near future and at least a couple of live releases.
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Hmm, this appears to be the line up of A Scarcity of Miracles with two extra drummers, I'm getting a bit skeptical now if we need this.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gully Foyle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2013 at 14:36
well well well, retirement my ass, eh bob?

ive waited for a crimson with Levin to come back, and mel Collins can play, even wail, but im afraid that 'A scarcity of miracles' is the most accurate album title ever, they could have even called it 'no miracles at all', so I am very apprehensive about this effort



that being said, i'll likely attend if anywhere near boston

ugh, why couldn't it be like, fripp, muir, mastelloto, wetton and Levin, and Collins? that would be interesting if completely impossible

wonder whats up with Adrian these days, out of the NIN project, our of crimson, no info out there for a long time
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I saw Belew in Japan earlier this year with Levin and Mastelloto during their Crimson Trio tour but now I don't know what he is doing...
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If they are not going to do any new material, I just hope they will improve on material that needs improvement on such as some songs from the Beat recording that may benefit from three drummers, just don't try to improve upon the classics like Larks Tongues ..., Red, etc.
 
Actually would like to see them interpret some of Slipknot's songs, whose technical proficency with three percussionists was often lost by boringly playing fastly intense all the time.
 
Hope they do some new material though.
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Originally posted by Earthmover Earthmover wrote:

If they don't release any new material they're still dead to me (or at least some great reinterpretations of the old stuff) .

I'm not even interested in hearing reinterpretations...new material is really what I hope comes from this.  I'm thinking that starting out reworking old songs can't help but lead to new ideas taking shape Wink
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

SAAAWEEEEET!!!!! 
3 drummers eh?LOL I'm taking a wild stab in the dark here, but this could prove to be the world's first prog stomp album....
 
And THAT, would be a nice and different for a while ... oh my word ... what we gonna do about the odd time signatures, and jagged guitars this and that ... gosh ... the only thing missing is Eno!
 
I would pay for that!
 
I would definitly not bother if Adrian Belew was in it. I still think that is the weakest link in most of the King Crimson stuff, and the least interesting of all.


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Some Q&As from Belew:

q: are you in the new King Crimson planned for next september 2014?

a: no. after 32 years I am no longer in King Crimson.

q: were you asked to be in the new King Crimson?

a: no, I was not. robert informed me in an email that he was starting a 7-piece version of the band. he said I would not be right for what the band is doing.

q: so, how do you feel?

a: "happy with what I have to be happy with". which is quite a lot.

I'm busy creating something I've wanted to create all my life, something which has never been done. FLUX: never the same twice. creatively I'm exploding with new ideas, songs, and music. in 60 days I'll be touring south america with my beloved Power Trio and next spring I'll be touring europe with Crimson Project, which is a celebration of the crimson music
tony, pat, and I have help create. life is great.

q: what would you like to say to crimson fans about the new King Crimson?

a: my advice is to check it out and if you like it: support it.
and on that note: thanks to all of you for your continued support of my music.


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Very interesting Sojuice!
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I see no need for two extra drummers when they've already got one that plays like three at the same time...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guldbamsen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2013 at 10:10
^Well it could mean one behind a drum kit, another sitting at some Indian tablas while the third is playing triangles and xylophones. (well a man can hope...) 
I do however think this'll turn out as 3 guys behind drumming kits...
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Three drummers, with a guitarist that hates cymbals.  This could be fun.
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Well, every incarnation of King Crimson is predictable in the way that they never end up playing what people expected from them
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AtomicCrimsonRush Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2013 at 08:33
As long as Fripp is in it I will buy it.


3 drummers is ridiculous though - but a lot of fun
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I'm hoping for some mad vibraphone action!
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't a scarcity of miracles actually NOT a king crimson album? I was under the impression it was a different project. So I'm not understanding all the comparisons.

As for the 3 drummers, I'd guess its most likely the 2 drummer set up that crimson had a few years back when they still toured with Belew, plus some guy who makes sound effects such as another Jamie Buir. Crimson has never actually ventured into so called world music so I doubt they'll do something as interesting as adding bongos, djembe, or tabla.
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What's their next step? 5 drummers, 4 bass players, 8 saxophones and one Fripp? 
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Hi,
 
I like the 3 drummers idea.
 
One goes left, the other goes right and the other goes, who knows where, and he can take the guitar in any direction he feels like, and it will be a treat to see how well everyone goofs around and allows him the freedom to move around with the guitar, which I think is what he wants to do, something that would be a much more rock-like version of some of his solo albums without the song pretexts in the way!
 
If that is the case, this will be worth checking out! If it's just a bunch of songs, I doubt that this will be worth a nickel, though I trust Robert enough, to feel that it will be worth it.
 
I would like to see some serious free form stuff, and see the changes each night in concert. That would be a treat, and it would show that one of the game's best improvisational artists, is still at it, and not afraid to do it!
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