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    Posted: October 18 2013 at 13:32
Just read HolyMoly's 4 star review of Bley's "Tropic Appetites" and it got me to wonderin' about her. I've heard not a note of any of her music. Any recommendations on where I can start? I prefer more melodic compositions rather than atonal free form stuff.
 
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I agree with Steve. Tropic is excellent. If you like melodies, you should try her daughter : Karen Mantler (and her cat). Softer than her mother, but very good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--ZcZ1ntT8Y
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Isn't she the one who worked with Nick Mason on his Fictitious Sports album?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hellogoodbye Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2013 at 16:45
Yep, Carla wrote all the songs on Fictious Sports.
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^ Yep - 'Fictitious Sports' is a Carla album under the 'Nick Mason' name.
And I find that the album called 'The Hapless Child And Other Stories' - credited to Mike Mantler & Edward Gorey, is a real winner - Carla's keyboards sparkle.
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Try European Tour 1977.

It features Elton Dean, Hugh Hopper, Roswell Rudd and Gary Windo and several other jazz luminaries.  It's not atonal or free jazz but has its more avant moments.

I highly recommend it.


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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

^ Yep - 'Fictitious Sports' is a Carla album under the 'Nick Mason' name.
And I find that the album called 'The Hapless Child And Other Stories' - credited to Mike Mantler & Edward Gorey, is a real winner - Carla's keyboards sparkle.


Which also features vocals by Robert Wyatt.  Even more win. Big smile
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^ 'Inscrutible' Stories ....and Steve Swallow and Jack DeJohnette as the vibrant rhythm section. A 5 star album which I should review but I'm very slack on the reviewing front.....
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I haven't heard that album for ages. In fact, I heard it at ManErg's house before I went to see VdGG.

I must try and get a copy.   From what I've heard of Mantler I think I'd enjoy his albums.
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^ Nutter Alert !!
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Thanks to all! I will see about getting my ears on some of these albums.
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I'm listening to Tropic Appetites now.  I forgot I'd heard it before.

Mmmm the saxophone is amazing.
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Although Howard Johnson's vocals are horrid.

I've always enjoyed Julie Tippett's voice though.
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I also have a *very* difficult, avant-jazz album featuring Mantler, Bley, Jack Bruce, Don Cherry etc. called 'No Answer', with words by Samuel Beckett - Bley and Bruce are the finest points about it - as I said - DIFFICULT.........
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hellogoodbye Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 19 2013 at 03:08
The Gary Burton's Genuine Tong Funeral is excellent too. Once again, more a Carla Bley album.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVUR2CTE30Q
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I don't know her that well but I like this album a lot -

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Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:

Isn't she the one who worked with Nick Mason on his Fictitious Sports album?
 
And a highly recommended album! Fun listen all the way to the end and then some!
 
Oh, wait, you'll have to put up with Robert Wyatt!
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Robert Wyatt is awesome, Mosh.  Now shhh. WinkLOL
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Originally posted by schizoidman schizoidman wrote:

Just read HolyMoly's 4 star review of Bley's "Tropic Appetites" and it got me to wonderin' about her. I've heard not a note of any of her music. Any recommendations on where I can start? I prefer more melodic compositions rather than atonal free form stuff.
 

Thanks in advance.


I like Sextet a lot.



Here's "Houses and People" (Hiram Bullock plays guitar on this album):

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Thanks to all

I'm going to concentrate my ears on European Tour 1977, Sextet, Fleur Carnivore and Tropic Appetites. Judging from the samples I've heard I think I'll be occupied with Carla's music for the next few weeks.

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