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    Posted: August 03 2005 at 23:25

Patrick Moraz was in amazing form on Refugee's only album, and both Lee Jackson and Brian Davison seemed to have improved as instrumentalists from their days with The Nice (that's not to say they were bad then, btw) ... amazingly even Jackson's vocals work for the most part ...

A criminally unrecognised album that will probably result in a criminally unrecognised thread

I'm loving it though ...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2005 at 04:25
I heard it once from vinyl several years ago and since then it's on my want list at number 1. Great stuff! Was it re-issued on CD?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2005 at 07:41

I had this album on vinyl a few years back too; I remember it to be an excellent album which I think easily matched The Nice's work.

Anybody ever here know the other Nice spin-off Jackson Heights? I had one of their albums yet don't remember it being too great.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2005 at 00:05

Originally posted by gulliman gulliman wrote:

I heard it once from vinyl several years ago and since then it's on my want list at number 1. Great stuff! Was it re-issued on CD?

The only one I could track down was a Japanese import on Charisma Japan from 1996 ... which was too expensive for me ... so I listening to a copied version  ... for the moment

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2005 at 00:15
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

I had this album on vinyl a few years back too; I remember it to be an excellent album which I think easily matched The Nice's work.

Anybody ever here know the other Nice spin-off Jackson Heights? I had one of their albums yet don't remember it being too great.

I read somewhere that Jackson Heights did 5 albums, and that Davison was part of the group for a brief period too ... not too sure about my info on this one ...

Also does anybody know if Lee Jackson has anything to do with the group Python Lee Jackson  ... which had Rod Stewart on lead vocals for the awesome psych-era single In A Broken Dream?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2005 at 07:22
I often wondered about the Lee Jackson connection with that record, but I don't think that it's anything to do with The Nice's Lee Jackson- Python Lee Jackson are I believe, an Australian combo. Rod Stewart was a jobbing musician in the 1960s and made various records with a lot of people, and ended up with this band somehow. The track 'In A Broken Dream' was released only when Rod was famous too, I think- around 1972/3?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2005 at 07:26

Refugees album is great and I strongly recomend it to anyone who likes keyboard led prog!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2005 at 10:57

Lee Jackson of the Nice and Refugee had no connection with the Python Lee Jackson group. They were an Australian band for which Rod Stewart sang on three tracks. If my memory serves me correctly, In a broken dream was recorded in 1968. Rod Stewart never sang better and the remastered version for CD has to be heard to be believed. Refugee's album was underrated - I like 'Rit Mikeley'. 

PS. Fish Out of Water by Chris Squire featuring Patrick Moraz is good too.

   



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2005 at 11:03
I read that Rod Stewart was brought it to record a guide vocal for "In a broken dream" but this version ended up being released.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2005 at 17:12
Interestingly, the song title 'Ritt Mickley' derives from Patrick Moraz's pronounciation of the word 'Rhythmically'...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2005 at 16:46
Originally posted by gulliman gulliman wrote:

I heard it once from vinyl several years ago and since then it's on my want list at number 1. Great stuff! Was it re-issued on CD?


Yes, sometimes you can find it on ebay at good prices...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2005 at 11:41
Thanks salmacis, I had spent all this time wondering what it meant.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2005 at 14:57

Yes! a great album. I'm not really into The Nice, but Refugee is just over-the-top enough (like ELP, really). Moraz is a wicked player. I just picked the vinyl up for $3 at a used record store in my area...I knew it was considered prog, but the album cover made me wonder if it could possibly be any good.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2005 at 22:25
Originally posted by slipperman slipperman wrote:

Yes! a great album. I'm not really into The Nice, but Refugee is just over-the-top enough (like ELP, really). Moraz is a wicked player. I just picked the vinyl up for $3 at a used record store in my area...I knew it was considered prog, but the album cover made me wonder if it could possibly be any good.

 

where is Roger Dean when you really need him

Heh heh ... you said it ... the music inside definitely calls for some Roger Dean, instead we get Brian Davison looking like a slimmed-down version of Demis Roussos, and Patrick Moraz pre-empting the disco-look by a few years

Thanks for the info on Python Lee Jackson, folks!

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