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Posted: October 26 2013 at 18:23
I'm familiar with a handful of these bands and while my fave album from the above artists is NIN's "With Teeth" - I don't really consider it very "industrial" so Laibach get's my vote
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Posted: October 28 2013 at 00:27
The.Crimson.King wrote:
I'm familiar with a handful of these bands and while my fave album from the above artists is NIN's "With Teeth" - I don't really consider it very "industrial" so Laibach get's my vote
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Posted: October 29 2013 at 16:12
Slightly off-topic: Has anyone else noticed that industrial projects' political loyalties are a pretty surefire predictor of musical style? Openly left-wing bands are usually guitar-based (e. g. Godflesh, Killing Joke, Ministry) whereas the right-wingers tend to base their sound in electronic instrumentation... (e. g. Blood Axis, NON, Organized Resistance)
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Posted: October 29 2013 at 17:17
Toaster Mantis wrote:
Slightly off-topic: Has anyone else noticed that industrial projects' political loyalties are a pretty surefire predictor of musical style? Openly left-wing bands are usually guitar-based (e. g. Godflesh, Killing Joke, Ministry) whereas the right-wingers tend to base their sound in electronic instrumentation... (e. g. Blood Axis, NON, Organized Resistance)
Music doesn't work like that. Consolidated were industrial hip-hop and very leftist.
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Posted: November 02 2013 at 18:59
Toaster Mantis wrote:
Slightly off-topic: Has anyone else noticed that industrial projects' political loyalties are a pretty surefire predictor of musical style? Openly left-wing bands are usually guitar-based (e. g. Godflesh, Killing Joke, Ministry) whereas the right-wingers tend to base their sound in electronic instrumentation... (e. g. Blood Axis, NON, Organized Resistance)
Wrong: SPK and Esplendor Geometrico were quite left-wing (we could even label them as Marxists) and never used guitars. Moreover, Death In June is also guitar-based (acoustic guitars, but still guitars) but is a right-wing project.
Your choices left out my personal favorite industrial band, Severed Heads. Although early records in the late 70's/early 80's were very much industrial they shifted more to pop & dance music by the 1990's.
Here's one of their best-known songs... we'll at least among the band's fans anyway, although I think this one charted in their native Australia
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Posted: November 09 2013 at 09:20
CPicard wrote:
Toaster Mantis wrote:
Slightly off-topic: Has anyone else noticed that industrial projects' political loyalties are a pretty surefire predictor of musical style? Openly left-wing bands are usually guitar-based (e. g. Godflesh, Killing Joke, Ministry) whereas the right-wingers tend to base their sound in electronic instrumentation... (e. g. Blood Axis, NON, Organized Resistance)
Wrong: SPK and Esplendor Geometrico were quite left-wing (we could even label them as Marxists) and never used guitars. Moreover, Death In June is also guitar-based (acoustic guitars, but still guitars) but is a right-wing project.
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Posted: November 09 2013 at 09:30
CPicard wrote:
Wrong: SPK and Esplendor Geometrico were quite left-wing (we could even label them as Marxists) and never used guitars. Moreover, Death In June is also guitar-based (acoustic guitars, but still guitars) but is a right-wing project.
There's definitely exceptions, but it does seem like a general trend there's some truth to. To the right-leaning guitar-based industrial bands you can add later Blut Aus Nord by the way (name means "blood from the north" in broken German - hmmm...) and Above the Ruins (Death in June splinter faction way more explicitly political than DIJ ever were).
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I was obsessed with Throbbing Gristle in the 80's and owned the entire catalog on LP. Re-bought the stuff on disc in the digital age , but ended up selling many of the less enjoyable titles as time progressed. The 2nd Annual Report was difficult to bare in later years ..however "After Cease To Exist" always gave me the creeps and that was cool. Journey Through A Body and In the Shadow of the Sun are their strangest most nightmarish releases. I took their music as a visionary or a film and was attracted to that, but it's pretty self-explanatory as to why I would feel that way....as T.G. often showed influence off the Berlin School of electronic music style in between all of their other bizzare tape recordings and feedback sounds. Cozy Fanny Tutti's guitar sounded like a vacuum cleaner in "Hamburger Lady" and Chris Carter went for the Berlin sound. The cover of Throbbing Gristle's Greatest Hits displays a picture of Cozy with bedroom eyes and it's a little Twilight Zone in nature. Something about that picture brings the thought of suspense and mystery. Some foul play image or murder. Something sadistic and the band often wrote about documented cases of horrific crimes seemingly as a warning of the danger existing in the world. But...the way in which they went about doing it created mystery. There was something about them that was very strange and curious. They made you're mind drift into dark places. I never liked "Funeral In Berlin" or any live recording for that matter...but got a thrill out of their studio recordings. I do find "Heathen Earth" laughable and especially in the section where Genesis P.is playing the part of a whore monger attempting to pick up a woman played by Cozy Fanni Tutti. They were like watching a strange independent underground film and even much stranger than Eraserhead.
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Posted: November 09 2013 at 20:29
TODDLER wrote:
I was obsessed with Throbbing Gristle in the 80's and owned the entire catalog on LP. Re-bought the stuff on disc in the digital age , but ended up selling many of the less enjoyable titles as time progressed. The 2nd Annual Report was difficult to bare in later years ..however "After Cease To Exist" always gave me the creeps and that was cool. Journey Through A Body and In the Shadow of the Sun are their strangest most nightmarish releases. I took their music as a visionary or a film and was attracted to that, but it's pretty self-explanatory as to why I would feel that way....as T.G. often showed influence off the Berlin School of electronic music style in between all of their other bizzare tape recordings and feedback sounds. Cozy Fanny Tutti's guitar sounded like a vacuum cleaner in "Hamburger Lady" and Chris Carter went for the Berlin sound. The cover of Throbbing Gristle's Greatest Hits displays a picture of Cozy with bedroom eyes and it's a little Twilight Zone in nature. Something about that picture brings the thought of suspense and mystery. Some foul play image or murder. Something sadistic and the band often wrote about documented cases of horrific crimes seemingly as a warning of the danger existing in the world. But...the way in which they went about doing it created mystery. There was something about them that was very strange and curious. They made you're mind drift into dark places. I never liked "Funeral In Berlin" or any live recording for that matter...but got a thrill out of their studio recordings. I do find "Heathen Earth" laughable and especially in the section where Genesis P.is playing the part of a whore monger attempting to pick up a woman played by Cozy Fanni Tutti. They were like watching a strange independent underground film and even much stranger than Eraserhead.
Have you tried the live album 32nd Annual Report? It's a live album of them playing through the entire 2nd annual Report, but it blows that one out of the park. You can hear the Berlin School influence quite often in this one imo.
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Posted: November 10 2013 at 00:07
Toaster Mantis wrote:
CPicard wrote:
Wrong: SPK and Esplendor Geometrico were quite left-wing (we could even label them as Marxists) and never used guitars. Moreover, Death In June is also guitar-based (acoustic guitars, but still guitars) but is a right-wing project.
There's definitely exceptions, but it does seem like a general trend there's some truth to. To the right-leaning guitar-based industrial bands you can add later Blut Aus Nord by the way (name means "blood from the north" in broken German - hmmm...) and Above the Ruins (Death in June splinter faction way more explicitly political than DIJ ever were).
Since when Blut Aus Nord is an industrial band? Furthermore, while I'm not familiar with this band, I've never heard of them as a right-leaning band, in spite of their name...
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Posted: November 13 2013 at 08:26
CPicard wrote:
Since when Blut Aus Nord is an industrial band? Furthermore, while I'm not familiar with this band, I've never heard of them as a right-leaning band, in spite of their name...
Yeah, Blut Aus Nord tends to be seen as an avant-black metal band with mmmmaybe some industrial influences here and there.
Furthermore, Blut Aus Nord have made a point of distancing themselves from nationalist black metal bands - they've declared themselves to be more akin to environmentalist black metal guys like Wolves In the Throne Room, who aren't exactly folk that far right enthusiasts are going to happily associate themselves with. Lyrically speaking they seem to have nothing in common with right wing black metal dudes - I mean, they've drawn on Viking imagery here and there but plenty of people have done that who aren't neo-fascists. (The only dude I know who's actually into Norse paganism is married to a Jewish woman and takes an active and enthusiastic interest in her family's religion, for instance.)
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Posted: November 14 2013 at 03:26
The BAN guys should start a support group for "bands whose names sound Neo-Nazi even though they aren't" with Death SS and Wolfbrigade, then.
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Posted: November 15 2013 at 12:14
I'll give DI6 the nod for the stellar mid 80s era; stuff like Nada and The World That Summer. They haven't done anything really worthwhile in almost 2 decades though.
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