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    Posted: November 02 2013 at 14:01

Earlier this year there was an announcement of Phideaux's new album Infernal. I have been waiting for it for almost a year but since the announcement there has been no new activity on that front at all. Does anyone know why there has been a delay of almost a year after the announcement.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gully Foyle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2013 at 17:09
Seconded!

I have been waiting with bated breath for the release of Infernal, and salivating over the supposed vinyl Great Leap/Doomsday/Infernal box set

I wrote Phideaux a while back, after the new website debuted, figuring this might be an omen of the new release, but heard nothing.

Hopefully this thread will bring the man himself out of the woodwork.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gallifrey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2013 at 18:28
It's still in the works, according to his facebook page. He posted the currently finished lyrics a couple of weeks ago, so that suggests the album's nearly finished in terms of composition. But I have no idea how far through they are with recording.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Floyd Steely Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2013 at 10:32
This was a case where someone got waaaaaaay overeager about adding the album to PA. We really should hold off until the thing actually exists, don't you think?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote proggman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2013 at 16:35
Yes wait until it has a release date at least.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Neo-Romantic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2013 at 18:28
So this album isn't even out, and yet it already has 9 ratings (7 five star, 2 three star). Honestly, this is nonsense. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote proggman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2013 at 10:12
Yes how can an album that isn't even out yet have 9 ratings?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Prog_Traveller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2013 at 19:21
Really? You guys aren't aware of the fact that in this day and age an album can be "leaked?" 
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Originally posted by Prog_Traveller Prog_Traveller wrote:

Really? You guys aren't aware of the fact that in this day and age an album can be "leaked?" 

It hasn't leaked though. It hasn't even been finished.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote proggman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2013 at 20:16
I don't think the album has been leaked, because according to Phideaux's facebook account the album is in the recording process right now.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Neo-Romantic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2013 at 22:47
Plus, it wouldn't be the first time this has happened either...
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Probably not the last time as well.
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reported to Admins
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Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

reported to Admins

Good, although please allow rating when the album actually does leak. When the Raven leaked a shocking 6 weeks early, every single rating was being removed and it was just annoying.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote johnobvious Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 07 2013 at 17:26
From all I can tell, the guy is a perfectionist who feels the thing can always be tinkered with and improved and couple that with having a real job and you better not get your hopes up that it will be here soon.  Seems like an awesome guy with but one pretty significant character flaw.
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Originally posted by johnobvious johnobvious wrote:

From all I can tell, the guy is a perfectionist who feels the thing can always be tinkered with and improved and couple that with having a real job and you better not get your hopes up that it will be here soon.  Seems like an awesome guy with but one pretty significant character flaw.

I don't mind this approach, but I always think it's a bad idea to announce things that far out. Tell people about an album when it's done, not while it's being completed, otherwise everyone gets impatient.
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^Or it builds up hype and makes people extra eager to get it the moment it comes out. At least, that's what it does to me!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote spleenache Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2013 at 10:22

I see two issues.

1.     Phideaux should not have jumped the gun and announce the album such a long time before actually finishing it. Providing the album name, song list and the album cover prematurely leads to this kind of nonsense by some of our members.

2.       Those individuals who provided ratings for something that does not exist are simply distorting the purpose and function of our rating system. These ratings should be removed from the system. Hopefully Admin will respond to Aapatsos’s notice and act on it.

 

I would like one or more of those individuals who have rated a non-existent album to respond to this thread and at least explain their perspective so that maybe we can understand what if anything we are missing.

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote spleenache Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2013 at 10:34

Interesting, Admin must have cleared the earlier ratings. If I recollect there were 9 ratings now it shows one rating. My guess is Admin cleared the ratings and someone else (progstarmac (Daniel Mier)) jumped in submitted another rating (5 stars). This is nonsense. Maybe this album should be removed from the list at least until it is closer to release or when its early non released copies are sent to few key reviewers in this site

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^ yes they have and will act again if required - if you feel it should be removed, you can PM an Admin  Wink
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