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Along with Pink Floyd, two of the biggest bands of the seventies. I actually voted for the Who because I think they are more under rated. Plus I saw them live once. Led Zeppelin are great but I think they are a tad over rated. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2018 at 20:59
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Originally posted by Prog_Traveller Prog_Traveller wrote:

Imo, Led Zeppelin cheated their way to success so they lose many points for that. Plus they are way over played and over hyped. I still like them a lot and they are still one of my all time favorite bands but I'm voting for the under dogs known as the WHO. I saw the WHO many moons(no pun intended)ago and they were great. Never saw LZ.
 
I never saw "LZ" myself (obviously would have loved to) and do agree about their ample rate of play on classic rock stations. Please explain, though, what you meant by the band cheating "their way to success".
I think he is talking about plagiarism.

Yep, that's exactly what I was referring to. A lot of bands borrowed ideas here and there and covered people's material but LZ took it to a whole other level. It's been well documented though so it's not just my opinion. All you have to do is google "led zeppelin musical plagiarism" or something to that effect or "led zeppelin ripped off old blues musicians." 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2018 at 11:47
Regarding 'stealing' musical ideas , chord structures, melodies, and even lyrics... etc....this is a common activity from most musicians. I'd be willing to bet money that if you asked Townsend he would say they 'borrowed' ideas from other earlier bands that came before them. No one lives in a vacuum.
Zeppelin wasn't shy about borrowing blues rock ideas from some of the old masters....for some of their more overt blues-rock songs. IMO they should have owned up to these 'covers' from the start. But in no way does this detract from their legacy imho. No one....no one ...combined the blues and rock quite like they did....period. A unique sound that became iconic.

I saw The Who in 1974 with Moon......didn't see Zep in the old days but saw Plant and Page in 1995/1998 in Chicago.....I enjoyed The Who concert more but I did not see the original Zep so it's an unfair comparison. As far as who is better....that's like asking what's better,,filet mignon or lobster...it's completely a personal taste.  The Who were a great band back then...but there was a 'mythos' around Zep that transcended music and the individual players. There was 'magic in the air'......
But....I wouldn't want to be without either bands music.
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LZ so EZ
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Neither. Both are great but I'll say neither because although Led Zeppelin were the better band they stole too much from blues guys on their early albums. The Who were more original and maybe even more visceral but they weren't as good so they cancel each other out hence my neither.

Edit: Ok, it looks like I voted for the Who a long time ago. Whatever. 


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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Neither. Both are great but I'll say neither because although Led Zeppelin were the better band they stole too much from blues guys on their early albums. The Who were more original and maybe even more visceral but they weren't as good so they cancel each other out hence my neither.

Edit: Ok, it looks like I voted for the Who a long time ago. Whatever. 

I think they (and their label) forgot to give credit where they supposed to. They thought Baby I'm Gonna Leave You was a traditional song, They forgot to mention that Dazed and Confused was a cover. Whole Lotta Love plagiarized Muddy Waters and Bring It On Home Sonny Bot Williamson. I don't remember where I read it long ago that even In my Time of Dying lifted ideas from some old blues... 
 


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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Neither. Both are great but I'll say neither because although Led Zeppelin were the better band they stole too much from blues guys on their early albums. The Who were more original and maybe even more visceral but they weren't as good so they cancel each other out hence my neither.

Edit: Ok, it looks like I voted for the Who a long time ago. Whatever. 

I think they (and their label) forgot to give credit where they supposed to. They thought Baby I'm Gonna Leave You was a traditional song, They forgot to mention that Dazed and Confused was a cover. Whole Lotta Love plagiarized Muddy Waters and Bring It On Home Sonny Bot Williamson. I don't remember where I read it long ago that even In my Time of Dying lifted ideas from some old blues... 
 



I'm pretty sure "In My Time of Dying" was written by Bob Dylan.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Neither. Both are great but I'll say neither because although Led Zeppelin were the better band they stole too much from blues guys on their early albums. The Who were more original and maybe even more visceral but they weren't as good so they cancel each other out hence my neither.

Edit: Ok, it looks like I voted for the Who a long time ago. Whatever. 

I think they (and their label) forgot to give credit where they supposed to. They thought Baby I'm Gonna Leave You was a traditional song, They forgot to mention that Dazed and Confused was a cover. Whole Lotta Love plagiarized Muddy Waters and Bring It On Home Sonny Bot Williamson. I don't remember where I read it long ago that even In my Time of Dying lifted ideas from some old blues... 


I'm pretty sure "In My Time of Dying" was written by Bob Dylan.

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Ok, so BD didn't actually write it. Big whoop. He did arrange it for his debut and his version precedes the LZ version.

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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Yes even. LZ's version was probably based on the Dylan version.

On Dylan's debut album page it says "Traditional, arranged by Dylan". 
It more or less means that it's a cover of a traditional old song. 
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Neither. Both are great but I'll say neither because although Led Zeppelin were the better band they stole too much from blues guys on their early albums. The Who were more original and maybe even more visceral but they weren't as good so they cancel each other out hence my neither.

Edit: Ok, it looks like I voted for the Who a long time ago. Whatever. 

I think they (and their label) forgot to give credit where they supposed to. They thought Baby I'm Gonna Leave You was a traditional song, They forgot to mention that Dazed and Confused was a cover. Whole Lotta Love plagiarized Muddy Waters and Bring It On Home Sonny Bot Williamson. I don't remember where I read it long ago that even In my Time of Dying lifted ideas from some old blues... 
 



I'm pretty sure "In My Time of Dying" was written by Bob Dylan.

"In My Time of Dying" was released by Blind Willie Johnson in 1927. Johnson also wrote "Nobody's Fault But Mine". 
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Ok, so BD didn't actually write it. Big whoop. He did arrange it for his debut and his version precedes the LZ version.

I didn't mean it like that. I am not picking on you in any way. 
Yes, his version obviously predates Zeppelin's. Just wanted to point out the song is not a LZ original. 


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This is a really tough one. Can’t Explain, Happy Jack, Pinball Wizard, I Can See For Miles, Who Are You, Eminence Front, Boris The Spider, Behind Blue Eyes, Magic Bus versus Going to California, Dyer Maker, Black Dog, Ramble On, Over the Hills and Far Away, etc etc etc

No no no.

Battle of Evermore … okay, Led Zeppelin by a nose.

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Originally posted by Jaketejas Jaketejas wrote:

This is a really tough one. Can’t Explain, Happy Jack, Pinball Wizard, I Can See For Miles, Who Are You, Eminence Front, Boris The Spider, Behind Blue Eyes, Magic Bus versus Going to California, Dyer Maker, Black Dog, Ramble On, Over the Hills and Far Away, etc etc etc

No no no.

Battle of Evermore … okay, Led Zeppelin by a nose.


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I like both but gave the edge to the Who
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