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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 05:19
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

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Gentle f++++++ Giant . Talk about deathly underrated

maybe, but not influential either.

If they are not influential. Its a damn shame!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 04:56
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Gentle f++++++ Giant . Talk about deathly underrated
maybe, but not influential either.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 04:43
Gentle f++++++ Giant . Talk about deathly underrated

Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - November 17 2013 at 04:44
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 04:35
Many fans of electronic music I've met can't get into TD because their music is either too closely rooted in progressive/psychedelic rock and 20th century classical, or too technologically primitive.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 04:30
Someone will mention Clouds and Billy Ritchie so it might as well be meTongue

Tangerine dream were very popular in the seventies and were still charting in the UK up to 1984 so I'm not sure how they could be considered not popular although they were certainly influential.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 04:15
Arthur Brown, he influenced Alice Cooper and Peter Gabriel to do theatrics on stage, there have a foot in the invention of shock rock,
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 03:45
Originally posted by paganinio paganinio wrote:

Kraftwerk


I think they're about the only historically important Krautrock group who don't qualify. Well, maybe among people who only listen to newer music, but don't almost everyone who's serious about music admit KW are one of the most influential music groups of the past 40 years?

Now, a band like Hawkwind or Van der Graaf Generator whom others mentioned... that's more like it. Neither has become more than a cult band and still had most of their influence on scenes that didn't exist until long after either group's agreed "golden age". HW in particular seem to have inspired punk more than anything overtly prog/psych, until the jam band revival and stoner rock movements of the 1990s which were often strongly indebted to the Hawks.

By the way I can't believe I haven't mentioned 13th Floor Elevators or Roky Erickson in general for that matter. I think 13FE were the first music group to call their own output "psychedelic rock". They clearly influenced The Doors, Jefferson Airplane and Pink Floyd but never became anywhere as popular.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 00:05
Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

I feel like VDGG would fit into this category as well. In their heyday, they only had widespread acclaim in Italy, from what I've heard (correct me f I'm wrong on this). Progheads I know who don't frequent this site are significantly less likely to have heard of them than their 70s contemporaries. But if you look at the number of prog groups and individual musicians who were influenced by that group and Peter Hammill in particular, the lasting influence is undeniable.

Good call.  Interesting example, when Marillion 1st appeared on the scene the press assumed Fish was influenced by Gabriel because of the makeup but he actually admitted Peter Hammill was his biggest influence Wink

Thank you sir Handshake

And that definitely gives me some major incentive to check out Marillion. Gosh, I'm behind LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2013 at 23:34
Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

Lou Reed?
yeah except he's really popular
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2013 at 23:06
Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

I feel like VDGG would fit into this category as well. In their heyday, they only had widespread acclaim in Italy, from what I've heard (correct me f I'm wrong on this). Progheads I know who don't frequent this site are significantly less likely to have heard of them than their 70s contemporaries. But if you look at the number of prog groups and individual musicians who were influenced by that group and Peter Hammill in particular, the lasting influence is undeniable.

Good call.  Interesting example, when Marillion 1st appeared on the scene the press assumed Fish was influenced by Gabriel because of the makeup but he actually admitted Peter Hammill was his biggest influence Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2013 at 23:04
Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

I feel like VDGG would fit into this category as well. In their heyday, they only had widespread acclaim in Italy, from what I've heard (correct me f I'm wrong on this). Progheads I know who don't frequent this site are significantly less likely to have heard of them than their 70s contemporaries. But if you look at the number of prog groups and individual musicians who were influenced by that group and Peter Hammill in particular, the lasting influence is undeniable.

Good call.  Interesting example, when Marillion 1st appeared on the scene the press assumed Fish was influenced by Gabriel because of the makeup but he actually admitted Peter Hammill was his biggest influence Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2013 at 22:37
I'd say many of the "just under the radar" bands. Here's a few that come to mind:

Gentle Giant
Van der Graaf Generator
Camel
Magma
Gong
Hawkwind
Caravan
Soft Machine
Tangerine Dream
PFM
Marillion

There are more but those are the most obvious ones imo.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2013 at 22:26
I feel like VDGG would fit into this category as well. In their heyday, they only had widespread acclaim in Italy, from what I've heard (correct me f I'm wrong on this). Progheads I know who don't frequent this site are significantly less likely to have heard of them than their 70s contemporaries. But if you look at the number of prog groups and individual musicians who were influenced by that group and Peter Hammill in particular, the lasting influence is undeniable.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2013 at 21:53
Kraftwerk
every album by Kraftwerk
every song by Kraftwerk
every compilation by Kraftwerk
and every DVD by Kraftwerk
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2013 at 15:25
Alcest's main historical impact on music overall seems to have been getting metalheads into shoegaze and 1980s indie rock in general, but I'm not sure that'll be more than a passing fad.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2013 at 15:22
I can't really think of influence on the wider world of music, but in terms of my own compositions, I'd have to say Kayo Dot and Alcest. Neither are extremely popular, but both have a very very distinct style that is just so unique that if you've heard them it'll just seep into your compositions. Even though they're not my favourite bands, I take more influence from them than Porcupine Tree or Riverside, simply because they have such unique styles.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2013 at 15:20
Good call on Jeff Beck, he's still nowhere the household name that Hendrix or Page are. I can see where the King Crimson mention is coming from. There's a reason they're nowhere as commercially successful as Genesis or Jethro Tull or Pink Floyd: Most of their music isn't as immediately accessible as many of the other big '60s/'70s UK prog groups. Certainly took much longer for me to get into them than most other groups of their time and generation.

What about Vanilla Fudge? They were one of the earliest bands to fuse rock with classical, but aren't mentioned today as often as Deep Purple, Genesis, Procol Harum when it comes to pioneering that fusion. Not sure they were quite that historically important, though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2013 at 15:12
Terry Riley, David Axelrod, Bert Jansch, It's A Beautiful Day, Fabrizio De Andre, Area. Each influential in different genres.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2013 at 14:22
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

I'd throw Jeff Beck into the mix even though he's not widely influential or popular by the standards of many others that will be mentioned here, he is often regarded as the guitarists' guitarist and that counts for something.
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My friend Bill has been saying that for years but then he's a huge Jeff Beck fan.
 
 
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