Forum Home Forum Home > Progressive Music Lounges > Prog Music Lounge
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Artists who are more influential than popular
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Topic ClosedArtists who are more influential than popular

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <123>
Author
Message
The.Crimson.King View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: March 29 2013
Location: WA
Status: Offline
Points: 4591
Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2013 at 23:06
Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

I feel like VDGG would fit into this category as well. In their heyday, they only had widespread acclaim in Italy, from what I've heard (correct me f I'm wrong on this). Progheads I know who don't frequent this site are significantly less likely to have heard of them than their 70s contemporaries. But if you look at the number of prog groups and individual musicians who were influenced by that group and Peter Hammill in particular, the lasting influence is undeniable.

Good call.  Interesting example, when Marillion 1st appeared on the scene the press assumed Fish was influenced by Gabriel because of the makeup but he actually admitted Peter Hammill was his biggest influence Wink
Back to Top
smartpatrol View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: April 15 2012
Location: My Bedroom
Status: Offline
Points: 14169
Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2013 at 23:34
Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

Lou Reed?
yeah except he's really popular
Back to Top
smartpatrol View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: April 15 2012
Location: My Bedroom
Status: Offline
Points: 14169
Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2013 at 23:37
can
Back to Top
Neo-Romantic View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: January 09 2013
Status: Offline
Points: 928
Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 00:05
Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

I feel like VDGG would fit into this category as well. In their heyday, they only had widespread acclaim in Italy, from what I've heard (correct me f I'm wrong on this). Progheads I know who don't frequent this site are significantly less likely to have heard of them than their 70s contemporaries. But if you look at the number of prog groups and individual musicians who were influenced by that group and Peter Hammill in particular, the lasting influence is undeniable.

Good call.  Interesting example, when Marillion 1st appeared on the scene the press assumed Fish was influenced by Gabriel because of the makeup but he actually admitted Peter Hammill was his biggest influence Wink

Thank you sir Handshake

And that definitely gives me some major incentive to check out Marillion. Gosh, I'm behind LOL

Back to Top
Toaster Mantis View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: April 12 2008
Location: Denmark
Status: Offline
Points: 5898
Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 03:45
Originally posted by paganinio paganinio wrote:

Kraftwerk


I think they're about the only historically important Krautrock group who don't qualify. Well, maybe among people who only listen to newer music, but don't almost everyone who's serious about music admit KW are one of the most influential music groups of the past 40 years?

Now, a band like Hawkwind or Van der Graaf Generator whom others mentioned... that's more like it. Neither has become more than a cult band and still had most of their influence on scenes that didn't exist until long after either group's agreed "golden age". HW in particular seem to have inspired punk more than anything overtly prog/psych, until the jam band revival and stoner rock movements of the 1990s which were often strongly indebted to the Hawks.

By the way I can't believe I haven't mentioned 13th Floor Elevators or Roky Erickson in general for that matter. I think 13FE were the first music group to call their own output "psychedelic rock". They clearly influenced The Doors, Jefferson Airplane and Pink Floyd but never became anywhere as popular.
"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook
Back to Top
Icarium View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: March 21 2008
Location: Tigerstaden
Status: Offline
Points: 34050
Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 04:15
Arthur Brown, he influenced Alice Cooper and Peter Gabriel to do theatrics on stage, there have a foot in the invention of shock rock,
Back to Top
richardh View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: February 18 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 25892
Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 04:30
Someone will mention Clouds and Billy Ritchie so it might as well be meTongue

Tangerine dream were very popular in the seventies and were still charting in the UK up to 1984 so I'm not sure how they could be considered not popular although they were certainly influential.


Back to Top
Toaster Mantis View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: April 12 2008
Location: Denmark
Status: Offline
Points: 5898
Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 04:35
Many fans of electronic music I've met can't get into TD because their music is either too closely rooted in progressive/psychedelic rock and 20th century classical, or too technologically primitive.
"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook
Back to Top
ProgMetaller2112 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 08 2012
Location: Pacoima,CA,USA
Status: Offline
Points: 3145
Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 04:43
Gentle f++++++ Giant . Talk about deathly underrated

Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - November 17 2013 at 04:44
“War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.”

― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four



"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart



Back to Top
Dean View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout

Joined: May 13 2007
Location: Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 37575
Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 04:56
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Gentle f++++++ Giant . Talk about deathly underrated
maybe, but not influential either.
What?
Back to Top
ProgMetaller2112 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 08 2012
Location: Pacoima,CA,USA
Status: Offline
Points: 3145
Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 05:19
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Gentle f++++++ Giant . Talk about deathly underrated

maybe, but not influential either.

If they are not influential. Its a damn shame!!
“War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.”

― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four



"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart



Back to Top
Dean View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout

Joined: May 13 2007
Location: Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 37575
Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 05:30
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Gentle f++++++ Giant . Talk about deathly underrated

maybe, but not influential either.

If they are not influential. Its a damn shame!!
probably, Derek Shulman on the otherhand was, and still is, very influential in the music industry.
What?
Back to Top
dr wu23 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 22 2010
Location: Indiana
Status: Offline
Points: 20449
Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 10:55
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Gentle f++++++ Giant . Talk about deathly underrated
maybe, but not influential either.
Yet one reads where bands claim influence from them...and Haken ( as well as other bands like Spocks Beard when Morse was with them) have used their vocal multiple part vocal  acapella things on the new one.
maybe not a huge influence but influence nevertheless.
One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
Haquin
Back to Top
Guldbamsen View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Retired Admin

Joined: January 22 2009
Location: Magic Theatre
Status: Offline
Points: 23098
Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 11:06
Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

Lou Reed?
yeah except he's really popular


The Velvet Underground are perhaps the ultimate "artists who are more influential than popular". Every kid who ever went to see a gig with The Velvets later on formed his/her own band, or so the legend goes. I do think there's some truth in that statement though...
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”

- Douglas Adams
Back to Top
Wanorak View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 09 2006
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 4574
Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 11:22
I think KC is the perfect example; hugely influential yet the masses don't get a chance to hear their brilliance. The same goes for Peter Hammill!!
A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!
Back to Top
proggman View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: October 14 2013
Location: Sweden
Status: Offline
Points: 1458
Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 11:47
Some bands and artists that have been influenced by Gentle Giant are Neal Morse, Spock's Beard, Echolyn, Beardfish and Haken.
When he rides, my fears subside.
For darkness turns once more to light.
Through the skies, his white horse flies.
To find a land beyond the night.
Back to Top
The Dark Elf View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: February 01 2011
Location: Michigan
Status: Offline
Points: 12609
Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 11:57
Originally posted by Progosopher Progosopher wrote:

I quite agree with this.      I saw him perform once as part of B.B. King's Festival of Music, which most people thought of as a festival of Blues. B.B. himself kept making reference to "the great Jeff Beck." Jimi Hendrix could also fall into this category - extremely well known but his record sales were never on par with his notoriety and influence.
 
Bzuh? You are completely misinformed on Hendrix.
 
His three original studio albums, the Smash Hits greatest hits package and the live Band of Gypsys were all in the top ten in both the UK and the States during their original releases (Electric Ladyland was a #1 album for a couple weeks in 1968), and all have since gone multiple platinum. His post-humous rereleases have also sold extremely well; in fact the latest People, Hell and Angels went to #2 on the Billboard charts in 2012. Hendrix was not only influential, but a rock superstar during his short life.


Edited by The Dark Elf - November 17 2013 at 11:58
...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
Back to Top
surrogate people View Drop Down
Forum Groupie
Forum Groupie
Avatar

Joined: October 02 2013
Location: uruguay
Status: Offline
Points: 45
Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 18:42
Of course it all depends on what we call "popular" and "influential". King Crimson are relatively popular even if they never achieved platinum status. I could think of Nick Drake, who died without knowing success but influenced much more known artists such as Kate Bush, Robert Smith or even Mikael Akerfeldt. Five leaves left is a really beautiful album, quite progressive in its own way. 
Surrogate People they walk on by, they walk on by
When they replace you
They live your life, they live your life
Back to Top
Metalmarsh89 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: January 15 2013
Location: Oregon, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 2673
Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2013 at 20:58
I'd toss Blue Oyster Cult into this mix too. I don't really know how popular they ever became, but I'm under the impression that their popularity was small and brief. However, they've certainly had plenty of influences inside and outside the prog world.
Back to Top
The.Crimson.King View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: March 29 2013
Location: WA
Status: Offline
Points: 4591
Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2013 at 00:03
Originally posted by Metalmarsh89 Metalmarsh89 wrote:

I'd toss Blue Oyster Cult into this mix too. I don't really know how popular they ever became, but I'm under the impression that their popularity was small and brief. However, they've certainly had plenty of influences inside and outside the prog world.

Blue Oyster Cult became huge in the US after "Don't Fear the Reaper" and were playing the mega-stadium concert circuit circa 1978.  Before that, I'd say they were bigger than a cult following though rarely heard on radio.  When MTV hit they got some decent video play with "Burning for You" but I don't think they ever recaptured the huge audience that came to them because of Reaper...
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <123>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.120 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.