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    Posted: November 24 2013 at 12:48
Am I the only person out there who loves Genesis' debut as much as their other albums?? I absolutely adore it, and I think it's better than every album after The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, but I think it's overshadowed a bit by the general excellence of Genesis! Tongue Looking at the 2.58 rating (or something like that) and the 5% of 5-star ratings, I get confused because I can't be the only one (or 1 in 20) who loves this album? What are your ideas on it/my ideas of it?

Thanks for any feedback Smile

P.S. Is anyone else annoyed at the fact that they didn't do an interview for this album, yet they did on practically all of the others? Smile


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2013 at 13:46
Originally posted by Xonty Xonty wrote:

Am I the only person out there who loves Genesis' debut as much as their other albums?? I absolutely adore it, and I think it's better than every album after The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, but I think it's overshadowed a bit by the general excellence of Genesis! Tongue Looking at the 2.58 rating (or something like that) and the 5% of 5-star ratings, I get confused because I can't be the only one (or 1 in 20) who loves this album? What are your ideas on it/my ideas of it?

Thanks for any feedback Smile

P.S. Is anyone else annoyed at the fact that they didn't do an interview for this album, yet they did on practically all of the others? Smile

well, thats because the band doesnt own the rights to that album anymore, and thats because it was on another label (Decca Records to be exact), while the rest of their days were with Charisma. This album is now owned by "Jonathon King" (guess why there's quotation marks there), and all the money that is used to buy a copy of this album goes to him.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2013 at 14:03
It's an ok album. I don't think it's better than any of their other albums tbh.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2013 at 14:43
It definitely has its moments.  I'd put "In the Wilderness" up there with their best.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2013 at 15:04
It is a good album, but not better than any of their other albums. The mixing is not good. I'm a huge and die hard fan of Genesis and I really like From Genesis.... very much, more when I think that this album was written by boys of less than 18 years. In the wilderness is the better track of the album. Other ones like That's me, Silent sun, We are waiting for you, Fireside song, In hiding, One day  or A winter's tale, are really good too.

What do you think about the chords that Jonhatan King put there and Tony and Ant really don't like?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2013 at 15:17
I've only heard it once at a friend's house and if I remember correctly there was a lot of orchestration on it which turned me off.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2013 at 15:41
There are interviews about it as I have the footage on VHS somewhere.Quite a lot of footage in fact, talking to all the lads about their feelings about the release. It suffered as many record outlets at the time filed it amongst religious music releases and consequently did not receive as much airplay as it should have.

The Genesis archives release of this material is overkill and for completionists only. Best just source the original release and enjoy as it was mean't. You can pick up the natural progression to their next release Trespass as some of the songs have that unmistakeable Anthony Philips influence.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2013 at 15:52
I like it a lot, certainly more than anything after Wind and Wuthering, but I cannot say it is better than any of them because it is not, thanks mainly to the perfunctory string arrangements that King put all over it. I prefer the earlier versions of the songs that appear on the Genesis Archive 1967-75.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2013 at 17:05
I also think "In the Beginning" is a great psychedelic rock tune.  Not sure if they even meant it to be one, but it is.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2013 at 18:16
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

I also think "In the Beginning" is a great psychedelic rock tune.  Not sure if they even meant it to be one, but it is.
 
I'm sure they wanted the whole album to sound like it. Here's Mother Gong's take on it:
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2013 at 18:32
I always enjoyed the album. I thought it showcased their songwriting abilities quite well. It's nice and relaxing to listen to though it isn't Supper's Ready by an standard. Still, I kinda always thought it was underrated too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2013 at 22:25
Its a good album but no where near as good as their later albums Wacko
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2013 at 23:36
Far from a favorite but an enjoyable listen.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2013 at 02:44
It's a very quaint, very English album done by a bunch of youngsters. 'Fireside Song' and 'The Serpent' are up there with their best.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2013 at 04:10
Originally posted by zravkapt zravkapt wrote:

Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

I also think "In the Beginning" is a great psychedelic rock tune.  Not sure if they even meant it to be one, but it is.
 
I'm sure they wanted the whole album to sound like it. Here's Mother Gong's take on it:
 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2013 at 04:40
My opinion is not relevant here as I'm everything but a Genesis fan. The debut and the Lamb are their only two albums that I like. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2013 at 11:09
When I first heard it I thought it was really weird. However, it grew on me over time. I think it's a special album in their catalog but I don't think it's one of their very best. It does contain lots of catchy arty psych pop but it doesn't really hint that much at what the band would become. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2013 at 11:14
That Gong cover might as well be an entirely different tune since only the lyrics seem to be the same. Speaking of covers though, the band Echolyn did a pretty good cover of "where the sour turns to sweet." 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2013 at 11:29
I think it's too easy for reviewers to trash the album since their next one was such a great leap forward.  Not too long after I got into the band ('79 or so) I started making assortment tapes of Genesis (and other prog bands).  I always gave those tracks equal footing in my mixes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2013 at 11:34
I think its a pretty decent debut, but the excellence of Trespass completely overshadows it.  Still worth a listen though and I'd like to get my hands on the original versions that Dean mentioned.
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