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Michael678 
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Posted: November 29 2013 at 15:33 |
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can someone tell me about this special edition of Q and Mojo and bring up its 40 cosmic rock albums (i wanna see that list)??
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Posted: November 29 2013 at 22:16 |
See this link to an old thread here
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Posted: November 29 2013 at 22:32 |
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I have that magazine somewhere. It's pretty cool. Magazines and articles like this helped to bring prog back into the spotlight.
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Genital Giant
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Posted: November 30 2013 at 00:42 |
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I still don't get why Pink Floyd is considered prog. It's like calling Zeppelin prog.
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Posted: November 30 2013 at 02:52 |
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: November 30 2013 at 02:53 |
 Genital Giant wrote:
I still don't get why Pink Floyd is considered prog. It's like calling Zeppelin prog.
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well for starters the title track of AHM is more prog than anything Genesis ever did
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Posted: November 30 2013 at 02:57 |
Michael678 wrote:
can someone tell me about this special edition of Q and Mojo and bring up its 40 cosmic rock albums (i wanna see that list)??
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yeah I have the mag - It introduced me to many prog bands and the concept of prog
Heres the amazing list
40 666 - APHRODITES CHILD 39 ONCE AGAIN - BARCLAY JAMES HARVEST 38 PHAEDRA - TANGERINE DREAM 37 IN SEARCH OF THE LOST CHORD - MOODY BLUES 36 DANCE OF THE LEMMINGS - AMON DUUL II 35 FLYING TEAPOT - GONG 34 HATFIELD AND THE NORTH - HATFIELD AND THE NORTH 33 ALL TOGETHER NOW - ARGENT 32 MOONTAN - GOLDEN EARRING 31 ROXY MUSIC - ROXY MUSIC 30 MUSIC IN A DOLL'S HOUSE - FAMILY 29 FIVE BRIDGES - THE NICE 28 L - STEVE HILLAGE 27 AGAETIS BYRJUN - SIGUR ROS 26 PAMPERED MENIAL - PAVLOV'S DOG 25 A NIGHT AT THE OPERA - QUEEN 24 MOVING PICTURES - FOCUS 23 MOONMADNESS - CAMEL 22 LARK'S TONGUES IN ASPIC - KING CRIMSON 21 LATERALUS - TOOL 20 THIRD - SOFT MACHINE 19 IN THE LAND OF GREY AND PINK - CARAVAN 18 FRANCES THE MUTE - THE MARS VOLTA 17 MISPLACED CHILDHOOD - MARILLION 16 OCTOPUS - GENTLE GIANT 15 THE LEAST WE CAN DO IS WAVE TO EACH OTHER - VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR 14 THE LAMB LIES DOWN ON BROADWAY - GENESIS 13 HOT RATS - FRANK ZAPPA 12 THE YES ALBUM - YES 11 WISH YOU WERE HERE - PINK FLOYD 10 OK COMPUTER - RADIOHEAD 9 TUBULAR BELLS - MIKE OLDFIELD 8 SPACE RITUAL - HAWKWIND 7 AQUALUNG - JETHRO TULL 6 A FAREWELL TO KINGS - RUSH 5 BRAIN SALAD SURGERY - ELP 4 IN THE COURT OF THE CRIMSON KING - KING CRIMSON 3 CLOSE TO THE EDGE - YES 2 FOXTROT - GENESIS 1 DARK SIDE OF THE MOON - PINK FLOYD
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Posted: November 30 2013 at 02:59 |
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Michael678
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Posted: November 30 2013 at 07:31 |
dr wu23 wrote:
See this link to an old thread here
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thx man! i was looking for this the other day because i thought it was here somewhere and it was!
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Posted: November 30 2013 at 07:36 |
Genital Giant wrote:
I still don't get why Pink Floyd is considered prog. It's like calling Zeppelin prog.
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Prog is a 'broad church' It means different things to different people. To me Floyd is very much prog rock. More so than say Styx or Kansas. Not that I have any problem with those bands. Zeppelin & Queen? No. Not prog. Excellent bands though.
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Posted: November 30 2013 at 12:08 |
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It really depends on how much you consider influence from classical music an essential part of progressive rock... and by that criterion Pink Floyd don't make the cut anywhere as easily as Genesis, King Crimson, Yes and their ilk.
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dr wu23
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Posted: November 30 2013 at 17:52 |
Floyd is prog related if not full on prog......but there are many bands here on PA that are not very proggy and many that should be on PA that are more proggy imo....but then we don't get to decide apparently.
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Posted: November 30 2013 at 18:41 |
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^Elton Dean should've been included here years ago.......at least JR/Fusion, if not Canterbuggers.......
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Posted: November 30 2013 at 19:33 |
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People who say Kansas aren't prog typically haven't heard their first four or five albums. You may as well say Rush aren't prog either.
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Posted: November 30 2013 at 20:48 |
Toaster Mantis wrote:
It really depends on how much you consider influence from classical music an essential part of progressive rock.
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But that has nothing to do with the definition of prog rock
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: December 01 2013 at 03:31 |
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I dunno, when elsewhere I've seen people debate what defines prog rock
as in differentiating it from psychedelic rock that's usually the
criterion that comes up most often. At the very least that is the
argument coming up when people say that Pink Floyd or most of the
Krautrock groups aren't prog. The best known example I can think of is
Jim Derogatis defining progressive vs. psychedelic that way in Turn on Your Mind, his book about psychedelic music's history.
For the record I don't subscribe to that definition of "progressive rock" myself.
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"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook
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Posted: December 01 2013 at 03:39 |
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Labels, labels, labels...prog is just a theme within music, some more identifiable for genres than others. Floyd is Floyd, space rock imo the best label up to and including Animals and returned for AMLOR ++
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: December 01 2013 at 04:40 |
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As far as I can tell there's two main definitions of progressive rock. The first one, which I subscribe to, refers to progress in the sense of thinking outside the box and hence moving the rock genre forwards. The second one, which Jim Derogatis and others use, mean "progressive" as in abandoning verse/chorus song structures in favour of a classically-inspired sonata format based on linear forwards progression within the composition.
One of these days I have to check the actual historical record in detail to find out how the term has actually been defined by musicians, reviewers, DJs, advertisers and so on through the genre's history. It's a while ago I read that Derogatis book but I'm under the impression that back in the 1960s "progressive rock" was a term used more by radio stations and reviewers than the musicians themselves. (it's usually that way with genre classifications)
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Posted: February 01 2014 at 00:36 |
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Anybody pick up the special Collectors edition of Rolling Stone's PINK FLOYD: THE ULTIMATE GUIDE TO THEIR LEGEND AND MUSIC ? It's amazing. 100 page magazine that chronicles the life if the band so well.
Fun fact. Did anyone here know that Roger Waters original 'THE WALL' tour hit 100 different cities!
I think that is incredible.
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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Posted: February 05 2014 at 09:51 |
Triceratopsoil wrote:
Genital Giant wrote:
I still don't get why Pink Floyd is considered prog. It's like calling Zeppelin prog.
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well for starters the title track of AHM is more prog than anything Genesis ever did
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