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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Cool....I have all my original KC on vinyl, most sound just fine as the mastering back then was not great for King Crimson, especially In the Court, but that was a tape machine issue.
The recent remastered versions all sound excellent, I'm only missing Starless and Bible Black reissue. I found a VG+ copy in Calif 2 months ago for $20, my original one is in bad shape now...All the reissues are on 200g and are flat, well done.

And what do you think in general of digital remastering, Catcher?
A rabbit hole topic/question. All new recordings are done in the digital domain, including the mastering. For the most part I have zero issue with this, do I think recordings from back in the day done on tape all analog are better? Sure some/many/most are, capturing the recording is really a mic thing. If the recording engineer is skilled at mic'ing up a band very well in the studio then that's the start of a great recording, digital or analog.
Problem is most bands nowadays record via email from their home studios....

Now remastering an older all analog recording using digital program like ProTools and all that can create a terrible sounding record but done by a very good engineer can be a great sounding record as well. 
Remixing an older recording, like what Steven Wilson does, can make a bad older recording come to life and sound pretty special, again if done right. 
Mastering and cutting all records is key, from digital or tape, adding a ton of compression just sucks the life out of the music it should be outlawed! LOL

For the most part I am glad to have LPs, pretty much all my LPs trounce my CD versions from a sound point. The soundstage, depth and imaging is so much better. The CD still, probably always, has that clinical sterile sound that is tough to connect with.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Cool....I have all my original KC on vinyl, most sound just fine as the mastering back then was not great for King Crimson, especially In the Court, but that was a tape machine issue.
The recent remastered versions all sound excellent, I'm only missing Starless and Bible Black reissue. I found a VG+ copy in Calif 2 months ago for $20, my original one is in bad shape now...All the reissues are on 200g and are flat, well done.

And what do you think in general of digital remastering, Catcher?


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I'd say my KC releases sound quite okay, even more than enough dynamic on the Japanese Larks' songs - hot stuff 
- and in general, I like very much the releases from the 70's, or early 80's.






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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Pressing Plant ID (Runouts & labels): Q
Matrix / Runout (Side A runout, etched): XBS-3629-A Q
Matrix / Runout (Side B runout, etched): XBS-3629-B Q

Embossed cover, nice, and Canadian releases use to have relatively hardback covers.

I certainly prefer my records to play clean, but I don't mind covers to have a bit of wear (no creases though). Actually, I like when they don't look new.

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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Correct
I just finished the first through beginning to end and am happy to report NM/NM !

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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

congratulations, JD

When talking about KC and vinyl, I'm very fond of my three LP's

King Crimson (UK)  In the Court of the Crimson King  (Island, 1976 UK, 120g, a. 2000, 400) (1969)

King Crimson    Larks’ Tongues in Aspic     (Atlantic, 1976 J, 125g, a. 2020, 400)     (1973)        

King Crimson    Red     (Editions EG, 1987 US, half speed mastered, 115g, a. 2011, 500)   (1974)       

They are all high quality releases, and in very good condition, except from Lark's Tongues cover having some 
yellow-brown staints from (Japanese) humidity, and Red not being particularly flat.

Cool....I have all my original KC on vinyl, most sound just fine as the mastering back then was not great for King Crimson, especially In the Court, but that was a tape machine issue.
The recent remastered versions all sound excellent, I'm only missing Starless and Bible Black reissue. I found a VG+ copy in Calif 2 months ago for $20, my original one is in bad shape now...All the reissues are on 200g and are flat, well done.
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Correct
I just finished the first through beginning to end and am happy to report NM/NM !


Edited by JD - May 10 2022 at 14:40
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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Pressing Plant ID (Runouts & labels): Q
Matrix / Runout (Side A runout, etched): XBS-3629-A Q
Matrix / Runout (Side B runout, etched): XBS-3629-B Q
Q is Quality Records in Canada, I think right? Yours is a Canadian label variant?
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I'd kill for a mint condition copy of Starless and Bible Black. Well, I mean I won't actually commit murder you understand. I do have morals. But what a treat a NM copy of that LP would be.
On my list.
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congratulations, JD

When talking about KC and vinyl, I'm very fond of my three LP's

King Crimson (UK)  In the Court of the Crimson King  (Island, 1976 UK, 120g, a. 2000, 400) (1969)

King Crimson    Larks’ Tongues in Aspic     (Atlantic, 1976 J, 125g, a. 2020, 400)     (1973)        

King Crimson    Red     (Editions EG, 1987 US, half speed mastered, 115g, a. 2011, 500)   (1974)       

They are all high quality releases, and in very good condition, except from Lark's Tongues cover having some 
yellow-brown staints from (Japanese) humidity, and Red not being particularly flat.


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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

"Inflation"? I'd say that used vinyl prices have got entirely mad. Confused 
David, this reminds me of an image I saw of a large record store, who in about 2005, parked a skip outside and dumped all their vinyl into it, with a sign saying 'help yourself' as they apparently needed the space... Confused

times are a changin' 


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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


"Inflation"? I'd say that used vinyl prices have got entirely mad. Confused 

David, this reminds me of an image I saw of a large record store, who in about 2005, parked a skip outside and dumped all their vinyl into it, with a sign saying 'help yourself' as they apparently needed the space... Confused


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Pressing Plant ID (Runouts & labels): Q
Matrix / Runout (Side A runout, etched): XBS-3629-A Q
Matrix / Runout (Side B runout, etched): XBS-3629-B Q
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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Cover looks great......my version is cut by George Piros (@tGP in deadwax)
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

A 45 minute drive and $20 cash and I'll have my King Crimson loving hands all over that bad boy.
I had that on cassette back in the day, about 15yrs ago purchased the LP for $3.99 at a record store....Inflation..

"Inflation"? I'd say that used vinyl prices have got entirely mad. Confused 


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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

A 45 minute drive and $20 cash and I'll have my King Crimson loving hands all over that bad boy.
I had that on cassette back in the day, about 15yrs ago purchased the LP for $3.99 at a record store....Inflation..
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A 45 minute drive and $20 cash and I'll have my King Crimson loving hands all over that bad boy.
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Oh Yeah !
Right now I'm trying to run a deal for the KC Discipline LP to give me the trifecta.
Watch this space.
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