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    Posted: December 15 2013 at 03:09
It's a bit strange to see that discussions about Queen discography are rather scarce here, although it's among the 'biggest' bands on the archives, both commercially (competing with The Beatless, Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd) and rating-wise (with two of their albums in Prog-Related top-5). Queen is one of my favourite bands of all time, forming my musical pantheon alongside with King Crimson, Steven Wilson and Peter Hammill.

I find Queen's classic albums one of the most interesting releases of good ol' 70's, with Queen II peaking as one of my all-time favourite LP's. Their first five albums are very progressive (in all senses of that word), with a lot of experimentation and surprising eclectism (from music hall to ballad to opera to heavy metal, sometimes all in one song), and it's even very strange that the commercial success have found that band with Bohemian Rhapsody, one of their weirdest songs. Their first albums are full of sudden emotional and stylistic changes, with technically excellent playing and, starting from late 1974, superior production (the first two albums, unfortunately, are not that perfect in terms of sound quality).

Although they turned very poppy in 80's, they still remained quite eclectic, and, unlike Rainbow or Uriah Heep, who turned into plain AOR bands, Queen still remained rather unpredictable even on their poppiest albums.

My ratings:
Queen I — 8/10
Queen II — 10/10
Sheer Heart Attack — 10/10
A Night at the Opera — 10/10
A Day at the Races — 10/10
News of the World — 7/10
Jazz — 8/10
The Game — 5/10
Flash Gordon — 4/10
Hot Space — 7/10
The Works — 6/10
A Kind of Magic — 6/10
The Miracle — 8/10
Innuendo — 9/10
Made in Heaven — 8/10
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2013 at 10:03
I never really got into Queen back in the day and I can still recall when my friend George played the first one for me when it came out and then the second one later. Solid rock but it never captured my fancy even though many people played them in the old days when I was at their house parties.
Having said that the first 5 albums are all good solid rock with some prog edges here and there with some nice album concepts.
To this day I own no Queen...always meant to pick up Queen 2 and Night At The Opera but I prolly wouldn't play them very often.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tuzvihar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2013 at 12:35
I love them since being a little kid! It's my first musical fascination! I own all their albums! Smile
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i loved Queen from the moment I heard of them (first LP)!  Queen II is my personal favorite.  I play much of their catalog on guitar for practice.  

I also email with Brian May about climate change and astronomy (I have an astronomy background and was always impressed that he went on to earn his Ph.D. in the field!).  He's accessible through his website.  Last email he said:

On Sep 8, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Brian's Soapbox wrote:
Hi Charles.  

Thanks for this interesting message.  


I'm not familiar with Dr. Svensmark's work.  But I do know that there are many who have put forward alternative theories for the cause of Climatic trends. 

One theory, much closer to home than Galactic Radiation  (my first instinct is to doubt this, though I have to admit total ignorance of this work), is that small changes in the energy output from the Sun can make a big difference to our climate, and this is not the first time this has happened.  

Another theory, even more 'down-home', is this.  

It is that the incidence of interplanetary dust on the upper atmosphere is variable, and has a significant effect on cloud formation, which in turn changes the temperature of the Earth's atmosphere.  

This, to me, is a believable connection to make, especially since there is very good reason to suppose that the amount of this material which the Earth encounters IS variable over short spans of years, since a large proportion of the dust (Zodiacal dust) is created by discrete collisions between asteroids.  These collisions are not just theory - they are well documented by some of my friends at the University of Florida.  

If you'd like to hear more … you know where I am ! 

All the best 

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I can't stand them.

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A Night at the Opera is a masterpiece, the other three I've heard are great, too (Jazz, A Day at the Races, and Sheer Heart Attack). Other than that I know most of their singles and do plan to expand my Queen knowledge in the future
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cstack3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2013 at 18:21
Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

A Night at the Opera is a masterpiece, the other three I've heard are great, too (Jazz, A Day at the Races, and Sheer Heart Attack). Other than that I know most of their singles and do plan to expand my Queen knowledge in the future

Check out the first LP, "Queen," and the second, "Queen II."  I think these are their best in terms of rock!  The later material is very over-produced.  

Anthem songs include "Liar" on the first LP and "Ogre Battle" on the second.  Good stuff!
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Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

A Night at the Opera is a masterpiece, the other three I've heard are great, too (Jazz, A Day at the Races, and Sheer Heart Attack). Other than that I know most of their singles and do plan to expand my Queen knowledge in the future

Jazz is a neat album (and it's really good actually), but usually fails to hold my attention in comparison with the first five albums.

'Innuendo' is a great album and for me it's virtually on the same level with 'A Night at the Opera', but 'Delilah' totally ruins it — a totally out-of-place tune, I wish they would keep it for B-side or something like that. The rest of 'Innuendo' is as good as 'A Night at the Opera' (btw, I remember, Mikael Εkerfeldt was citing 'Innuendo' as a major influence on Opeth).


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I'v never been a fan of Queen. Too much of mediocre pop.
Though, these four songs I loved to hear on fm radio:












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^I doubt there was any pop on their first albums, and as for singles, to judge Queen on their pop hits is like to judge Genesis on 'We Can't Dance'.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Svetonio Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2013 at 03:05
Originally posted by ole-the-first ole-the-first wrote:

^I doubt there was any pop on their first albums, and as for singles, to judge Queen on their pop hits is like to judge Genesis on 'We Can't Dance'.

LOL the Genesis case in even worse - that's the band who were disappointed their entire fan base with that mediocre pop.
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Queen II is my favourite Queen album, mainly for the Nevermore/Black Queen/Funny how love is.. triology on side 2 of the vinyl.

All their 70's albums were pretty good imo. Their are moments of genius on Night at the Opera. That said, I won't be heart broken if I never here Bohemian Rhapsody again.
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They were my favorite band at one point (my teens, in the 80s).  I have a tougher time listening to them now, some of their eclecticism just feels a wee bit gimmicky to me today.  But when they were good, they were great.  I still get a good thrill out of News of the World and Sheer Heart Attack, my two favorite albums.  The debut is pretty awesome too, as is Queen II.  I have mixed feelings about Night at the Opera - it may be their ultimate statement and quintessential album but Freddie seems to go a bit overboard on it, which grates on me a bit nowadays and makes me understand why there are people who don't like the band.

A Kind of Magic is the last album I really paid attention to (and it was pretty good).  I recently checked out Innuendo and frankly I just couldn't stomach it.  My time with Queen has passed, I think.  But I still enjoy the majority of their better albums, and I'm particularly a fan of Roger Taylor's contributions to the band.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gerinski Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2013 at 15:06
Also one of my favourite bands at a certain time in my youth and I still love much of their music, particularly the early stuff of course. From Queen I to A Day at the Races there's nothing mediocre. News of the World was a bit ruined by the mega-popularity of anthems We Will Rock You / We Are the Champions, but it was still a pretty good album, and Jazz was also very good (except for the mediocre Fun It). The list of great Queen songs would be longer than that of some of our beloved classic bands... even relatively uncelebrated songs such as You Take My Breath Away, Dead On Time or In The Lap Of The Gods (both parts) are masterpieces to my ears. But as complete album, Queen II is also my favourite.
I didn't care much for them after Jazz, there are some good songs in The Game and later albums but they became a different kind of animal.
 
Brian's work with the guitar was revolutionary and even to this day there are few guitarists who have attempted similar stuff. Unforgetable the quote on all their albums up to Jazz, 'no synthesizers'.
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I've been meaning to check out more of their stuff since stumbling across I'm Going Slightly Mad on one of our best of Queen CDs.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ole-the-first Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2013 at 03:21
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

I didn't care much for them after Jazz, there are some good songs in The Game and later albums but they became a different kind of animal.

Yup, their 80's stuff was much weaker, and 'The Game' is probably their weakest record (not counting 'Flash Gordon', which is a soundtrack).

But finally in late eighties-early nineties they've finally came back to their earlier style, so thankfully they've finished their career with this:

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As for 'News of the World', it has some great tracks, such as 'Sheer heart Attack' (usually hated by fans, but it's my favourite track from that album), 'It's Late' and tongue-in-cheek 'Who Needs You', but I rather hate 'We Will Rock You' and 'We Are the Champions'.

On the other hand, heavy 'fast' version of We Will Rock You is still pretty good (it's a shame that they decided to put the minimalist 'slow' version on the LP instead of the fast one):

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For me, Queen II and Sheer Heart Attack shine out, Night At The Opera has its moments but half of the album leaves me cold (Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon? 39? Seaside Rendezvous? Good Company? ... really?!)


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ole-the-first Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2013 at 04:33
^Tracks like 'Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon' or 'Seaside Rendedvouz' are very jokey, with their own humoristic charm. There's no need to take them seriously, but technically they're still very interesting (especially the imitation of string jazz orchetra done by the single guitar overdubs).
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You'll see my avatar and will know if I like the band. It was the second rock band I got interested into. Changed my life. Bowdown  
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