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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2014 at 20:58
I don't know if what Genesis was trying to do before they went on the direction of ABACAB was a parody of themsleves... but I just can't imagine it being any worse than ABACAB ended up being. Except for the Dodo thing, there's just nothing I enjoy on that album. Even "Invisible Touch", another rather disliked album around here, had some moments I really enjoy. I guess I should be checking out those Archives box-sets, I'm rather interested in the extended version of Dodo.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2014 at 01:06
^ ABACAB is worth revisiting. Try it in vinyl and boogie with Earth , Wind & Fire on No Reply At All
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2014 at 03:48
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:


Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I always thought Yes-  Going For The One (the whole album) was exactly this. Its when bands turn in on themselves instead of growing through external influence. That's how I see it. (btw I do like GFTO)

Aye - But this is amongst their finest releases - perhaps third behing Close and Tales...and is certainly up amongst the best 20 symphonic prog albums in history! Awaken is surely in the top 10 symphonic prog sub-epics of all time also !!! (sub-epic = track less than 18 minutes long but greater than 12 minutes)

Nothing wrong with perfecting your style,sound and approach. I don't like the compression (to my ears) on the production side but Awaken represents what Yes were totally about  (or certainly that was what Anderson believed)

I have to admit that when I heard GFTO (It was my introduction to Yes) I wasn't impressed (I suppose that it would be bout 1979) - but by 1981/82 yes were my favourite band.....it took me several years to "get" the music...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2014 at 03:58
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

I don't know if what Genesis was trying to do before they went on the direction of ABACAB was a parody of themsleves... but I just can't imagine it being any worse than ABACAB ended up being. Except for the Dodo thing, there's just nothing I enjoy on that album. Even "Invisible Touch", another rather disliked album around here, had some moments I really enjoy. I guess I should be checking out those Archives box-sets, I'm rather interested in the extended version of Dodo.


I quite agree with this. Abacab is imo a two star album, the only one beside their prematurely launched debut, with Dodo/Lurker as the only great song. I have heard these other songs and I think this would result in an album on par with Abacab but without any great songs. Paperlate is catchy, Me & Virgil is a nice one, You Might Recall the best of the bunch and the rest is crap.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2014 at 16:57
Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:

^ ABACAB is worth revisiting. Try it in vinyl and boogie with Earth , Wind & Fire on No Reply At All



I guess someday I'll get around to listening to it again, but I really doubt I'll change my mind.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2014 at 16:04
Abacrap!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2014 at 18:25
Once upon a time, I had developed a severe dislike for ABACAB - when I first got it during the late-80's I liked it, it was O.K. - then I hated it for years. I came back to it and kind of found some of it good, mostly average though. I gave it a 2 star review a few years back, listened to it several times since, and may have to re-assess the 2 star and up it to a 3. It's not that bad an album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 06 2014 at 07:15
I liked Abacrabs when it first came out though I didn't get a CD copy until 2002.  I still don't have Genesis or Invisible Touch on CD and have no plans to add those.  I've never had a copy of We Can't Dance on vinyl or CD.
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