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    Posted: February 03 2014 at 17:21

Looking for help in finding some Herbie Hancock material. He has a lot of albums and I was looking for material that was in the Weather Report, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Steely Dan type of sounds. No atonal/ free form/unstructured, please.

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What you need is the funk fusion trilogy of Headhunters:
Thrust:
and Sun Child:

I do prefer the three albums preceding them ie the Mwandishi albums, but they are pretty hard to handle if you don't dig the more 'out-there' stuff. 
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Mwandishi Trilogy (Mwandishi, Crossings, Sextant) are absolutely essential.
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

What you need is the funk fusion trilogy of Headhunters:
Thrust:
and Sun Child:

I do prefer the three albums preceding them ie the Mwandishi albums, but they are pretty hard to handle if you don't dig the more 'out-there' stuff. 

I second this - these are my favorites. 

Headhunters especially - i mean come on, Chameleon? Who doesn't groove to that?
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Great recommendations so far. Other less popular albums would be Flood, Mr. Hands, Secrets, Fat Albert Rotunda, Future Shock, The New Standard, and if you can find it, V.S.O.P, which has post bop with Miles second great quintet sans Miles Davis (Freddie Hubbard takes his place), the Mwandishi band, and the Headhunters band, all on one live album.

Speaking of Miles and Freddie, it would be in your best interest to check out some of their albums that feature Herbie. Just look at the lineups on these albums!!!

Miles Davis - In A Silent Way, A Tribute To Jack Johnson, Big Fun, On The Corner. That's not to mention the fact that Herbie was in Miles' 60s avant-garde/post-bop quintet too, a who's-who of 70s jazz-rock fusion.

Freddie Hubbard - Red Clay, Straight Life, First Light

And don't forget about the legendary debut album of Jaco Pastorius. Herbie plays all the keys on the album.

Also, get the Parallel Realities Live, featuring Herbie Hancock, Pat Metheny, Dave Holland, and Jack DeJohnette.


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V.S.O.P.
 
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Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Mwandishi Trilogy (Mwandishi, Crossings, Sextant) are absolutely essential.
I've actually listened to Crossings several times. "Sleeping Giant" still stands out for me, even though I felt only a few sections were worth my time and attention.
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Hancock's Maiden Voyage is my favorite even after all these years....but the bands you mentioned above actually made me think more of Corea. I'm a big fan of Hymn of the 7th Galaxy by Return To Forever.
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I don't like the Mwandishi trilogy. It's not my cup of tea.

I rather prefer "Thrust" and "Man-Child". Both are excellent, with strong funky groove.
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I like Sextant a lot, the other 2 I've never really warmed up to.

I like Headhunters through Secrets, obviously his overall best period. Jaco's self titled debut album came out in this time period.







After that, he dabbled with electro-pop and disco. I wouldn't call them good albums, but the late 70s and early 80s albums actually have gems among the bland mess. Not worth checking out until you get the more essential stuff, but good stuff, like a crazy instrumental jazz-fusion track on the album Sunlight with Tony Williams and Jaco Pastorius.



But in 1980, Hancock released Mr. Hands, and that album is one of his best, partially because it's mostly "leftovers" from earlier sessions, but wow, they don't sound like leftovers.








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I haven't heard many Herbie albums but I'd recommend 'Man-Child' for it's awesome, technical funkiness. The song 'Bubbles' is a knock-out.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote schizoidman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2014 at 09:08
Appreciate all the replies. His catalog is so incredibly huge that I wasn't sure where to start.
 
To say Thanks I'd like to post this Tommy Bolin tune that I've liked a like for a long time. Maybe you all might like it!
 
 
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Originally posted by schizoidman schizoidman wrote:

Appreciate all the replies. His catalog is so incredibly huge that I wasn't sure where to start.
 
To say Thanks I'd like to post this Tommy Bolin tune that I've liked a like for a long time. Maybe you all might like it!
 
 
Nice track........if you are a Bolin fan you must have the original Zephyr LP.
I can still remember buying that on vinyl when it came out.
 
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by schizoidman schizoidman wrote:

Appreciate all the replies. His catalog is so incredibly huge that I wasn't sure where to start.
 
To say Thanks I'd like to post this Tommy Bolin tune that I've liked a like for a long time. Maybe you all might like it!
 
 
Nice track........if you are a Bolin fan you must have the original Zephyr LP.
I can still remember buying that on vinyl when it came out.
 
 
I've yet to hear any of the music he made in Zephyr. Will give this a listen tonight. Thanks!
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I know the OP is looking for more of Herbie's work in 70s jazz-fusion, but I've come to appreciate some of the lesser talked about Herbie albums, and this ain't a bad place to bring them up.

Future Shock
(1983) is a good album, especially for the time it was released in. Of course, everyone knows Rock-It, but there is some great stuff after that big hit. If you're in the mood for more electronic tinged funky grooves with flourishes of jazz-fusion only Herbie Hancock could play, Future Shock is very good. The other 2 albums released after this, Sound System and Perfect Machine, are good, but aren't as essential, and more-of-the-same.




Another good album from Herbie's later career, is The New Standard (1996), which mixes the funk-fusion of the 70s, with more post-bop jazz as well as more world influences heard on the Mwandishi albums. This is all I could find on YouTube.




I also think Herbie's only album to experiment with Acid Jazz is also very good. Dis Is Da Drum (1994) is great if you're into Acid Jazz and features great playing from HH, as well as samples of dialogue heard on V.S.O.P. and other things.






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Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

I also think Herbie's only album to experiment with Acid Jazz is also very good.


Thanks! Acid Jazz....there's a few of those songs I've found that I really get a lot of relaxing vibes from. Here's a few:









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Like been said before Headhunters! And Man Child.Thrust
On a different note I would check out David Sancious the Transformation Speed Of Love 1976 album
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Sextant; Headhunters; Thrust; Flood. Absolutely essential funky fusion.
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