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LakeGlade12
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Posted: February 09 2014 at 02:59 |
I think we will know exactly how good 2013 was in another year. The average ratings are slowly decreasing as people who have never heard of or show no loyalties to said band are buying albums due to their star rating. 2013 gave me 2 full-blown masterpieces in The Raven and Hubardo. I haven't tried a lot of the other 2013 releases, but those that I have tried have been mostly average.
Edited by LakeGlade12 - February 09 2014 at 03:01
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: February 09 2014 at 05:49 |
I think it's all down to how much time one wishes to invest in pursuing new music. There is so much out there that it'll take years just to update oneself with 2013. Sure this is also very much dependant on people's will to try something new. I think there are those who judge a year based almost entirely on what their fave artists put out. So if Wilson, Star Trek Moustache and Tulip Royals all released something they felt was below par, well hey presto it was a bad year. If you experience a year of constant searching, I am almost certain you'll hear the fruits of your labour.
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someone_else
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Posted: February 09 2014 at 06:39 |
2013 was a great year, probably the best since 1976 or 1977 (in my book). Of the 47 or 48 albums I have heard, I count five masterpieces and another 14 or 15 4-star albums.
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javajeff
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Posted: February 09 2014 at 06:44 |
I only have 19 of the top 100 from 2013, so maybe I am not the person to ask. Does anyone own more than that? I also bought non prog like Elvis Costello and the Roots that I thought was excellent. 2013 was a good year. I just think our top 100 was looking a little inflated. There are maybe 5 or so on our top 100 that I may still get in the future.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: February 09 2014 at 08:08 |
Well I spent about half of the year unemployed, so it kind of sucked. Also my 19 year old cat died. Getting back to work wasn't so bad though...
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Manuel
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Posted: February 09 2014 at 08:33 |
it was a good year, but not much better than 2012, 2011, or 2010.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: February 09 2014 at 08:54 |
My top 5's for the last four years 2013 Guapo - History Of The Visitation Mirthkon - Snack(s) Miriodor - Cobra Fakir Blue Cranes - Swim Unit Wail - Retort 2012 Thinking Plague - Decline & Fall 3 Mice - Send Me A Postcard Nik Bartch Ronin - Live Corima – Quetzalcoatl Elephant9 – Atlantis 2011 Ske - 1000 Autunni Nerve Institute - Architects of Flesh-Density Arteria - Cuatro Visiones Scherzoo - 01 Dave Willey - Immeasurable Currents 2010 Pikapika Teart - Moonberry Uz Jsme Doma - Caves Yugen - Iridule Vezhlivyi Otkaz - Gusi-Lebedi Univers Zero - Clivages I'd rate 2013 as comparable to 2012 & 2011 but 2010 was a fantastic year for me and stands head & shoulders above other recent years.
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Ian
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progrockdeepcuts
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Posted: February 09 2014 at 09:27 |
Some favorites from 2013:
The Aristocrats: Culture Clash Chrome Hoof: Chrome Black Gold Djam Karet: The Trip Five Storey Ensemble: Not That City Guapo: History of the Visitation Herd of Instinct: Conjure Martin Barre: Away with Words Mike Keneally: You Must be This Tall Miriodor: Cobra Fakir MiRthkon: Snack(s) simakDialog: The 6th Story Steven Wilson: The Raven (Predictable, I know) The Wrong Object: After the Exhibition
Record year for progressive music, in my opinion.
Edited by progrockdeepcuts - February 09 2014 at 11:22
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Padraic
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Posted: February 09 2014 at 09:47 |
I'm part of the problem.
I only review something if it's outstanding. If it's mediocre I don't even bother.
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Master of Time
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Posted: February 09 2014 at 10:35 |
Gallifrey wrote:
No it wasn't.Good music was there, but as a whole 2012 was infinitely better. Probably the weakest year of the past decade IMO | Definitely agree here. This was a severely disappointing year for me.
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LakeGlade12
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Posted: February 09 2014 at 10:47 |
Padraic wrote:
I'm part of the problem.I only review something if it's outstanding. If it's mediocre I don't even bother. | Writing a 5 star review is easy, you have plenty of good things to say about it and you want to write that review as a "thank you" to the artist(s). Most people avoid buying stuff they will probably hate (unless you are a dedicated Dream Theater troll or whatever) so 1 star reviews are rare. I've been cutting my teeth on 2 and 3 star albums recently and its hard work. You really have to concentrate so that the bashing part is constructive and justified, but still give it some praise. So we give 2 or 3 star ratings instead which has 10x less impact than a review. Therefore the system is designed to over-rate things. So I ignore highly rated albums until they have at least 100 ratings, because its entirely false. Take Airbag or Moon Safari's newest albums which skyrocketed up the PA 100 charts, but their final rating was only 3.8-4.0 stars. There is no clear solution, but maybe new and overhyped albums should be banned from climbing the PA top 100 until they have been out for 2 months or so? That should minimise albums with 80 ratings and 4.6 average sitting in the top 30. Every time that happens it gives a bad impression to folks who use the PA 100 to find true prog masterpieces. If an underserving album reaches the top 30 (or top 11 which has happened many times!) it causes people to doubt the reliability of the top 100, which is very dangerous for this site. After 2 months they can climb. The new albums will by then have a fair amount of ratings and if they still exist in the top 100, they at least partially deserve it. Putting a timer on new albums would not be too hard right?
Edited by LakeGlade12 - February 09 2014 at 10:51
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progrockdeepcuts
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Posted: February 09 2014 at 11:24 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
If you experience a year of constant searching, I am almost certain you'll hear the fruits of your labour. |
Yes, this I agree with! I'm always searching and always finding something great.
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tszirmay
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Posted: February 09 2014 at 11:47 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Gallifrey wrote:
No it wasn't.
Good music was there, but as a whole 2012 was infinitely better. Probably the weakest year of the past decade IMO |
Absolutely agree.
2012 was surprisingly good, 2013 was mediocre at the best.
IMO the ratings are increasing because the band members and fans of the bands come here to rate the albums more than ever
Iván
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Tastes are always debatable but 2013 was exceptional in the neo/symph universe! Mediocre, really ? PERHAPS even better than 1973, in certain ways. There were 40 or so outright jewels that I have listed in the collab choices thread.
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progrockdeepcuts
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Posted: February 09 2014 at 11:57 |
tszirmay wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Gallifrey wrote:
No it wasn't.
Good music was there, but as a whole 2012 was infinitely better. Probably the weakest year of the past decade IMO |
Absolutely agree.
2012 was surprisingly good, 2013 was mediocre at the best.
IMO the ratings are increasing because the band members and fans of the bands come here to rate the albums more than ever
Iván
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Tastes are always debatable but 2013 was exceptional in the neo/symph universe! Mediocre, really ? PERHAPS even better than 1973, in certain ways. There were 40 or so outright jewels that I have listed in the collab choices thread. |
It was great in the avant / zeuhl sphere, too. Progressive music is very alive and very healthy! I agree that the past 10 years have been as good as the heyday of the genre.
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Wanorak
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Posted: February 09 2014 at 12:19 |
IMO, the new Transatlantic is much better than Bridge Across Forever. Also IMO, 2013 was a really good year for prog. I had a very hard time picking my top 10 of the year.
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A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: February 09 2014 at 12:31 |
My favorite album of 2013 was a 1995 album, Cardiacs - Sing To God. However I got about 10 albums that were newly made last year and I like them all.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: February 09 2014 at 12:41 |
progrockdeepcuts wrote:
It was great in the avant / zeuhl sphere, too. Progressive music is very alive and very healthy! I agree that the past 10 years have been as good as the heyday of the genre. | While I feel the scene is as vibrant in the last decade as in the 80's and 90's I'm having a hard time comparing it to the 70's. Well I look at my top 100 albums more than 50 of them are from before 1980.
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Ian
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Polymorphia
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Posted: February 09 2014 at 12:42 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
I think it's all down to how much time one wishes to invest in pursuing new music. There is so much out there that it'll take years just to update oneself with 2013. Sure this is also very much dependant on people's will to try something new. I think there are those who judge a year based almost entirely on what their fave artists put out. So if Wilson, Star Trek Moustache and Tulip Royals all released something they felt was below par, well hey presto it was a bad year.
If you experience a year of constant searching, I am almost certain you'll hear the fruits of your labour. |
much exploration so good music no money wow
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javajeff
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Posted: February 09 2014 at 12:48 |
Wanorak wrote:
IMO, the new Transatlantic is much better than Bridge Across Forever. Also IMO, 2013 was a really good year for prog. I had a very hard time picking my top 10 of the year. |
I admit it is growing on me. It is hard to compare something that is a
favorite to something that I only listened to 5 times so far. All Transatlantic is great prog, but Bridge Across Forever just has some unforgettable tracks that make it special.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: February 09 2014 at 13:04 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
progrockdeepcuts wrote:
It was great in the avant / zeuhl sphere, too. Progressive music is very alive and very healthy! I agree that the past 10 years have been as good as the heyday of the genre. |
While I feel the scene is as vibrant in the last decade as in the 80's and 90's I'm having a hard time comparing it to the 70's. Well I look at my top 100 albums more than 50 of them are from before 1980. |
As much as I love a lot of albums from the '70's, I've heard too much music to have a top 100 list. I enjoy moving forward. The Tea Club is another one of my favorite discoveries of 2013 though I don't think they did anything new last year.
Edited by Slartibartfast - February 09 2014 at 13:04
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