Metropolis Pt. 2 or The Mountain? |
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Xonty
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Topic: Metropolis Pt. 2 or The Mountain? Posted: February 20 2014 at 11:14 |
Both of these albums are similarly rated on PA (around 4.28), and they are both heavy prog rock/metal albums with a strong concept running throughout for over an hour. Very similar in many ways, but released almost 15 years apart from each other (1999 and 2013). All I'm asking is which one is your favourite and why? Personally, I really can't decide - both constantly switch over, usually depending on which one I've heard most recently
As always, thanks for any feedback
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Wanorak
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Posted: February 20 2014 at 11:21 |
DT.
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A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!
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Wanorak
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Posted: February 20 2014 at 11:22 |
Haken is a DT clone(with some differences) IMO and just do prog metal better(or least they did back then).
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A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!
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Wanorak
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Posted: February 20 2014 at 11:23 |
I mean DT did prog metal better lol Sorry the brain is not working this morning lol.
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A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!
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Horizons
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Posted: February 20 2014 at 12:29 |
You do know there is an edit button? Haha.
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Neo-Romantic
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Posted: February 20 2014 at 12:35 |
The Mountain for me, definitely. Metropolis isn't bad by any stretch of the mind, of course, but The Mountain just resonates with me more. The concept is much more relateable and endearing to me, and the music itself is easier to follow, IMO.
Edited by Neo-Romantic - February 20 2014 at 12:37 |
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Sagichim
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Posted: February 20 2014 at 12:40 |
Definitely Dream Theater. It's not even close actually.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: February 20 2014 at 13:08 |
It's like a poll between Genesis and The Watch. DT for me.
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: February 20 2014 at 14:09 |
As much as I hate to vote for Dream Theater, Haken interests me even less than them
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m2thek
Prog Reviewer Joined: November 12 2009 Location: NY Status: Offline Points: 220 |
Posted: February 20 2014 at 14:48 |
Either of Haken's first two albums would win this for me, but not The Mountain.
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richardh
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Posted: February 20 2014 at 15:06 |
I don't see that much comparision to be honest. Haken are very ambitious but are struggling to bring out an original idea. That said they are still more interesting than DT ever were.
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Metalmarsh89
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Posted: February 20 2014 at 16:10 |
I don't really see Dream Theater and Haken being that similar, aside from the prog metal tag. Actually, PA even lists Haken as heavy prog. Sure Haken was probably influenced by Dream Theater somewhat, but they are their own band, not a DT copy.
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Metalmarsh89
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Posted: February 20 2014 at 16:12 |
Oh, almost forgot. I think I'll vote Dream Theater. This is a tough choice, and The Mountain is very, very good, but Scenes from a Memory has already stood the test of time for me.
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The Bearded Bard
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Posted: February 20 2014 at 16:19 |
Easily DT.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: February 20 2014 at 16:29 |
DT, though the Mountain is enjoyable.
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someone_else
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Posted: February 20 2014 at 17:11 |
Both are great, but Haken's album appeals most to me.
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PabstRibbon
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Posted: February 20 2014 at 17:47 |
I'm not a fan of both bands but I must say that I prefer DT. I can still enjoy some Haken but little dose only
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proggman
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Posted: February 21 2014 at 01:49 |
I don't think The Mountain is a concept album. If it's a concept album, what's the concept? Edited by proggman - February 21 2014 at 01:50 |
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Neo-Romantic
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Posted: February 21 2014 at 01:55 |
^Not as concrete a narrative as the one in Metropolis, but it nonetheless has a unifying concept. It centers around the abstract journey "up the mountain" we all experience. It depicts the struggles of climbing, falling, picking oneself back up, and pressing onward with each piece evoking a different mood and capturing a different point of this journey.
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proggman
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Posted: February 21 2014 at 02:05 |
So basically it's a theme and not a concept. I think a concept album needs to have a story and or a musical motif that reappears through the album.
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