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Poll Question: Is Steve Vai prog?
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so I gues that according to you 75% of bans on ProgArch should be deleted for being not  prog
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Originally posted by Wolf Spider Wolf Spider wrote:

so I gues that according to you 75% of bans on ProgArch should be deleted for being not  prog


Is that addressed to me?

If so, no I don't think 75% should be removed, just the ones who are not prog
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Don't think Steve Vai should be in the PROG Archives...
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I say no.

I'm a big fan of Vai, and can't quite find an exact reason why he shouldn't be on here, but I've never really considered him prog. Ya'mean?
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Originally posted by Retrovertigo Retrovertigo wrote:

Oh looks like we have a good amount of people that say he's prog!  Eat that Tony R.

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Like, 30 out of a possible 2,000 have voted so far - so it's conclusive...

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Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by Retrovertigo Retrovertigo wrote:

Oh looks like we have a good amount of people that say he's prog!  Eat that Tony R.

w00t!!!

Like, 30 out of a possible 2,000 have voted so far - so it's conclusive...

He said that at a point when about 10 people had voted - 6 for Vai, 2 against and 2 indecisive, if I remember it correctly.

Edit: Even if all the members voted, the poll wouldn't be conclusive - I bet that only 5% of all members actually know Lucky Charms or Flex-Able.



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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by Retrovertigo Retrovertigo wrote:

Oh looks like we have a good amount of people that say he's prog!  Eat that Tony R.

w00t!!!

Like, 30 out of a possible 2,000 have voted so far - so it's conclusive...

He said that at a point when about 10 people had voted - 6 for Vai, 2 against and 2 indecisive, if I remember it correctly.

Edit: Even if all the members voted, the poll wouldn't be conclusive - I bet that only 5% of all members actually know Lucky Charms or Flex-Able.

I know Flex-Able and Passion And Warfare very well.

Neither is prog - but they're both awesome albums.
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for me he's in. Sex and Religion has a lot of prog moments (Devin
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Yes! Vai is a genius.
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Good guitarist but does not belong here.
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Points: 7559 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2005 at 03:48

Originally posted by arcer arcer wrote:

Originally posted by Wolf Spider Wolf Spider wrote:

so I gues that according to you 75% of bans on ProgArch should be deleted for being not  prog


Is that addressed to me?

If so, no I don't think 75% should be removed, just the ones who are not prog

As Wolfie said... about 75% 
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Here's an interesting link which Damen posted somewhere else:

http://epicrecords.com/g3/quicktime/

The website offers three videos (Satriani, Vai and Malmsteen) from the G3 DVD. They show the differences between the artists quite well ... IMO Vai's performance (or at least 80% of it) reminds me more of Robert Fripp than any of the usual shred guitarists ...
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I don't think so.
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now what a guitarist! definitely belongs here!
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I think that he belongs here, in the category Jazz-Fusion, although he's not very Jazz - I would describe his music as Shred-Fusion


i have only 3 of his album L&P, the ultra zone, and real illusions. so maybe i missed something, so can you pls tell me where you see the jazz?and of course shred + jazz = fusion (al di meola, greg howe, tony macalpine).
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^ in my post I said clearly that he's not very jazz. And technically fusion = rock + jazz + shred. Anyways, back then I proposed Jazz-Fusion as a category because it was the best choice, with artists like Derek Sherinian and Niacin in it.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ in my post I said clearly that he's not very jazz. And technically fusion = rock + jazz + shred.




how many guitar shredders you know that have zero rock/metal elements in their music?

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back then I proposed Jazz-Fusion as a category because it was the best choice, with artists like Derek Sherinian and Niacin in it.



i can see the logic in that, but the sentence " he's not very jazz.", is not that clear. anyway, back to more interesting and recent  topics...

 
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Originally posted by bluesynight bluesynight wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ in my post I said clearly that he's not very jazz. And technically fusion = rock + jazz + shred.




how many guitar shredders you know that have zero rock/metal elements in their music?



Does that question have anything to do with my post or the thread in general?

Originally posted by bluesynight bluesynight wrote:



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back then I proposed Jazz-Fusion as a category because it was the best choice, with artists like Derek Sherinian and Niacin in it.



i can see the logic in that, but the sentence " he's not very jazz.", is not that clear. anyway, back to more interesting and recent  topics...



You revived that thread. Wink

BTW: I meant that Vai's discography doesn't contain many tracks which belong to the genre of Jazz.
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