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    Posted: February 24 2014 at 16:05
Name your picks for songs that have drum intro's? I will start us off from the Hard Rock Genre, but you can pick any genre you want...
 
When The Levee Breaks- John Bonham-Led Zeppelin
Rock Candy - Denny Carmassi - Montrose
Are You Ready? - Jerry Shirley - Humble Pie
Hot 'n Nasty - Tommy Aldridge - Black Oak Arkansas 
Rock 'n Roll - John Bonham - Led Zeppelin
Brown Sugar - Charlie Watts - Rolling Stones
The Crunge - John Bonham - Led Zeppelin
Cook With Fire - Michael Derosier - Heart
Walk This Way - Joey Kramer - Aerosmith
Bonzo's Montreux - John Bonham - Led Zeppelin
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2014 at 16:32
The big one that came to mind immediately was Rainbow's "Stargazer" by the amazing Cozy Powell.
I consider drone metal to be progressive...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2014 at 17:24
Fireball - Deep Purple
Where Eagles Dare - Iron Maiden
Territory - Sepultura (this is from my country)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2014 at 17:56
"Peaches En Regalia" - Frank Zappa
"Got the Feeling" - Jeff Beck Group
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2014 at 18:01
Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

 Where Eagles Dare - Iron Maiden

One of my favorite IM's songs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2014 at 18:21
Originally posted by MFP MFP wrote:

Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

 Where Eagles Dare - Iron Maiden

One of my favorite IM's songs.
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Nice to hear it man... and Peace of Mind is maybe the Metal album i most listened to in my whole life !


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2014 at 19:01
Originally posted by deafmoon deafmoon wrote:

The Crunge - John Bonham - Led Zeppelin
Good call. One of the several reasons why I love that song.

Also ... :

VdGG - "Arrow" (come on ... that is some tight semi-professional drumming)
Mahavishnu Orchestra with John McLaughlin - "Vital Transformations"

... Ermm ... I might think of more.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2014 at 19:05
Semi-professional drumming? What?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2014 at 19:17
Originally posted by RedNightmareKing RedNightmareKing wrote:

The big one that came to mind immediately was Rainbow's "Stargazer" by the amazing Cozy Powell.


Yeah, that's a righteous example.

A slightly more modern example I like is the intro to Judas Priest's title song from Painkiller. I'm not exactly a JP "fan," but they have some great songs, like "Desert Plains" and "Hellion/Electric Eye."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2014 at 19:18
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Semi-professional drumming? What?
Come on ... compare him to Bill ... or Billy Cobham ... or Buddy Rich.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2014 at 19:48
I still don't understand how that changes his level of professionalism. 

Does that mean Ringo Star is barely professional because so many drummers posses better technical skill? 

Guy does a great job on Arrow, and in VdGG in general. He's a professional. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2014 at 22:12
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

I still don't understand how that changes his level of professionalism.
It doesn't. There were guys before Guy who could chop more proficiently than Guy. He can do better. He still has more room. Just because you have a few classy drum fills up your sleeve, that doesn't automatically make you a pro.
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Does that mean Ringo Star is barely professional because so many drummers posses better technical skill?
Give me one performance where Ringo chopped proficiently.
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Guy does a great job on Arrow, and in VdGG in general.
On "Arrow", "Killer", ... yes, but most of the time it sounds to me as if he is just there for rhythm back-up.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2014 at 22:16
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

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Originally posted by deafmoon deafmoon wrote:

The Crunge - John Bonham - Led Zeppelin
2. VdGG - "Arrow"
3. Mahavishnu Orchestra with John McLaughlin - "Vital Transformations"
4. Tool - "Ticks and Leeches" (bravo, Danny ).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2014 at 22:24
There's more to a drummer than playing sophisticated fills. Fills don't make a "professional" drummer. That's what you're saying in statement 1 correct? Good, i agree. 

Statement 2: Strawberry Fields Forever is a fantastic Ringo song. Same with Good Morning Good Morning. 

Statement 3. guy is a great drummer, and isn't limited to those songs. Honestly i think most of his performances are adequate and are both interesting and stable. Even so, even if we has just a metronome for VdGG's time signatures - he's still a professional. Session musicians are paid to do the same, and it's still his job and performs his role well.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2014 at 22:46
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

There's more to a drummer than playing sophisticated fills.
OK. Give me an example.
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Fills don't make a "professional" drummer. That's what you're saying in statement 1 correct? Good, i agree.
1) What do you mean by "professional" in quotes?
2) First, you say "Fills don't make a 'professional' drummer", then you agree. I'm confused.

 QUOTE=Horizons Statement 2: Strawberry Fields Forever is a fantastic Ringo song. Same with Good Morning Good Morning. /QUOTE

Fantastic songs, yes, but on the strengths of composition. I don't know what Ringo has to do with it, though.

 
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

 Statement 3. guy is a great drummer, and isn't limited to those songs. 

OK. What works do you think demonstrate him at his best?

 
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

... even if he has just a metronome for VdGG's time signatures - he's still a professional. 

I have nothing against the metronome.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2014 at 22:50
I agreed because you said the same thing. I still am trying to avoid your usage of professional. Only thing we disagree on it seems is you think a drummer's job is to w**k off during complicated fills. 






An example of an excellent drummer, doing an excellent percussion performance without using complicated fills. 

Edit: w**k is censored? Isn't there an age limit anyway?

LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2014 at 22:56
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

I agreed because you said the same thing.
Never mind about that one. It sounds like we'll fall into a rabbit-hole if we go further down this path.
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

I still am trying to avoid your usage of professional.
I thought there was only one legit usage of the word (the one that ostensibly the two of us agreed on beforehand). If you can't play proficiently, you are not at the pro level, right?
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Only thing we disagree on it seems is you think a drummer's job is to w**k off during complicated fills.
I said nothing of the kind, nor did I imply it. If you are able to come up with more ideas on spot for the same song, isn't that something that only a pro can do?
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:


An example of an excellent drummer, doing an excellent percussion performance without using complicated fills.
OK ... what's so professional about this performance


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2014 at 22:59
I'm going to respond with another question.

What's isn't professional about it? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2014 at 23:00
^ It just sounds like something a beginner drummer could play. Nothing pro about that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2014 at 23:01
Pertaining to the topic..



Love Dave's drumming. He changes it up here and there live, making it better a lot of times - but this is the great original. 

Also.. cheating a bit. 


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