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Tony R 
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 Topic: Steve Vai added to bands list !!!
Posted: August 07 2005 at 13:23 |
Someone has added Steve Vai.
I'm appalled and totally against this.
Anyone able to convince me otherwise or do we all agree that the rot has set in......
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 13:24 |
I'm not so sure about Steve Vai... he's a fantastic guitarist and I love his solo work, but I don't really feel that he's done anything truly "progressive". 
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Man Overboard
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 13:24 |
I'm more upset that Coheed and Cambria were added, then removed, than I
am about Steve's addition... then again, the only Vai I ever
heard was Vai's work with Zappa. 
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Retrovertigo
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 13:25 |
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We'll have to poll then. He's a prog-fusion composer.
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 13:26 |
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I'm ok with it. The net has been cast very wide on the Archives and I think he may be "proggy " enough!
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Wolf Spider
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 13:32 |
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He`s far more progressive than bands like Queen or Nightwish;)
Now really: I glad he`s added because he is a prog/fusion artist
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arcer
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 13:33 |
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Prog or not - he's completely crap, which is enough in my book to get him tossed out of the archive.
Actually, I don't think he's prog at all. Just another overschooled, fret shredding bore. Out damn spot, out I say!
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Wolf Spider
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 13:38 |
 arcer wrote:
Prog or not - he's completely crap, which is enough in my book to get him tossed out of the archive
Actually, I don't think he's prog at all. Just another overschooled, fret shredding bore. Out damn spot, out I say!
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Dream on boy. Not in this lifetime. Have you even hear the guy?
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stonebeard
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 13:38 |
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just because he was on tour with petrucci doesn't make him prog. i think he is more of a w**king soloist than petrucci on Train of Thought.
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arcer
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 13:48 |
Wolf Spider wrote:
arcer wrote:
Prog or not - he's completely crap, which is enough in my book to get him tossed out of the archive
Actually, I don't think he's prog at all. Just another overschooled, fret shredding bore. Out damn spot, out I say!
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Dream on boy. Not in this lifetime. Have you even hear the guy?
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I have had the unfortunate experience of hearing Vai on a number of
occasions - it was similar to having root canal surgery: long,
painful and barely endurable and you'll pay anything to get out of that
room.
The criteria by which one judges whether something is progressive or
not should not be based on the technical skill of the musician - which
I think forms a lot of the requests for the inclusion of shredders.
Speed of light legato does not a prog musician make.
Why put Vai and leave out Joe Satrian (maybe he's in already too - oh
the shame), or Frank Gambale or any number of big-haired plank
spankers.
Just as Queen are not prog, just as Muse are not prog, just as ELO or Kate Bush or whoever are not prog - neither is Steve Vai.
Please remove him
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 13:55 |
arcer wrote:
Wolf Spider wrote:
arcer wrote:
Prog or not - he's completely crap, which is enough in my book to get him tossed out of the archive
Actually, I don't think he's prog at all. Just another overschooled, fret shredding bore. Out damn spot, out I say!
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Dream on boy. Not in this lifetime. Have you even hear the guy?
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I have had the unfortunate experience of hearing Vai on a number of occasions - it was similar to having root canal surgery: long, painful and barely endurable and you'll pay anything to get out of that room.
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So you don't like virtuoso guitar playing - what does that have to do with his progressiveness? Do you like Zappa? Do you know what Avant-Prog is? Have you even listened to Flex-Able?
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arcer
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 14:05 |
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Yes I have heard Flex-Able. It was, to me, boring, pointless and
soulless. I never, ever, in a million blurred notes associated it with
prog. I just though it was dull heavy metal played by an egomaniac who
had spent too long locked away in a rehearsal room practicing his
scales. Sorry.
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Wolf Spider
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 14:08 |
arcer wrote:
Yes I have heard Flex-Able. It was, to me, boring, pointless and
soulless. I never, ever, in a million blurred notes associated it with
prog. I just though it was dull heavy metal played by an egomaniac who
had spent too long locked away in a rehearsal room practicing his
scales. Sorry.
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arcer
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 14:10 |
Fantastic riposte 
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 14:13 |
arcer wrote:
Yes I have heard Flex-Able. It was, to me, boring, pointless and soulless. I never, ever, in a million blurred notes associated it with prog. I just though it was dull heavy metal played by an egomaniac who had spent too long locked away in a rehearsal room practicing his scales. Sorry. |
To me Flex able is a very Zappa like album, for that reason maybe he should be included.
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arcer
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 14:17 |
Sorry, Snowy, just not for me - he's about as prog as Joey Tempest 
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Tony R
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 14:19 |
Wolf Spider wrote:
arcer wrote:
Yes I have heard Flex-Able. It was, to me, boring, pointless and soulless. I never, ever, in a million blurred notes associated it with prog. I just though it was dull heavy metal played by an egomaniac who had spent too long locked away in a rehearsal room practicing his scales. Sorry. |
Freak
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That's very constructive.
How about?
"Arcer:
I disagree with your post because........."
I know it is difficult being a teenager,but seeing as you are 20 tomorrow,I think it is time you grew up,dont you.
Edited by Tony R
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 14:22 |
arcer wrote:
Yes I have heard Flex-Able. It was, to me, boring, pointless and soulless. I never, ever, in a million blurred notes associated it with prog. I just though it was dull heavy metal played by an egomaniac who had spent too long locked away in a rehearsal room practicing his scales. Sorry. |
Then I assume you're not a Zappa fan either?
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 14:22 |
arcer wrote:
Sorry, Snowy, just not for me - he's about as prog as Joey Tempest |
Joey Tempest? Is that Troy's brother?
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arcer
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Posted: August 07 2005 at 14:23 |
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Wasn't he in that Shakespeare play?
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