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    Posted: March 09 2014 at 21:07
What is everybody's favorite live King Crimson album? I've heard USA and Collectable King Crimson One, but have not heard 'The Great Deceiver', 'Epitaph', 'The Nightwatch', or any of the King Crimson Collector Club releases.

With so many to choose from, what is your favorite?
Please don't be that one guy that says Earthbound.
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And with that asked, what are the overlaps in releases? I know that "USA" and "Collectable... One" release the same shows, but do the others overlap at all? I'm trying to decide what to get myself for my birthday and don't want to spend money on a show that I already have or am planning to get.
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From the ones I've heard, Bremen 1972. Great 30 minute jam and a fantastic version of Larks part 1 (and a decent version of Exiles). Absent Lovers comes close, too
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Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

From the ones I've heard, Bremen 1972. Great 30 minute jam and a fantastic version of Larks part 1 (and a decent version of Exiles). Absent Lovers comes close, too

Great! Just what I was looking for. Apparently it was all recorded on video too, and I'll take a gander at the clips I found on Youtube before I buy it.
Thanks!
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I'm not sure, I've got a few, though far from all of them. I like Collectible part 1 a lot. I don't have USA, and don't plan on getting it given that one of the concerts on Collectible 1 is the same from USA. I also have "The Great Deceiver", but that one repeats lot's of songs, and I feel Collectible has the better versions of the songs in most cases. And then there's part 3 or 4 (of Collectible King Crimson) which has a concert with the double trio which is very good too (I guess I might have liked Vroom Vroom too, but haven't been able to get it).
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Originally posted by Fredobobrick Fredobobrick wrote:

Please don't be that one guy that says Earthbound.
Well, ... it is the only live Crimson album I've heard so far, so ... I like almost every track on it. Approve SABB is also a partly live album, and I like every live track on it too.

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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by Fredobobrick Fredobobrick wrote:

Please don't be that one guy that says Earthbound.
Well, ... it is the only live Crimson album I've heard so far, so ... I like almost every track on it. Approve SABB is also a partly live album, and I like every live track on it too.

You have no idea what you are missing out on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhudDa3JAyc
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^ Yeah, ... but this is not a live album. And I've seen that clip before. And the studio version is better than the one in the clip.
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Either Great Deceiver or Absent Lovers.
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Essential :

Epitaph vol. 1&2
Summit Studios '72
The Night Watch/The Great Deceiver
Absent Lovers
Déja Vrooom DVD
Eyes Wide Open DVD




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Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

Essential :

Epitaph vol. 1&2
Summit Studios '72
The Night Watch/The Great Deceiver
Absent Lovers
Déja Vrooom DVD
Eyes Wide Open DVD




I would think that Epitaph vol 1 is enough. That's the only one I got, but I checked track lists and reviews before deciding to get only vol 1, and for what I remember the tracklists were very very similar, and the sound quality on vol 2 was suposed to be much worse. As for the Wetton era concerts, I don't know "The Night Watch", but I do have "The Great Deceiver", as well as "Collectible King Crimson Vol 1", and I would give the edge to Collectible. Once again, the tracklist is very similar (though "Great Deceiver" has more CD's, so it repeasts tracks more times), and I like better most of the tracks on Collectible.
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Great Deceiver is definitive as far as I am concerned

I also like the following

Heavy Construkction
Asbury Park 74
Zoom Club 72
Philadelphia 96
Brescia 74
New Haven 01 (because I was there)
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The Great Deceiver (If you had to limit yourself to one...)
Absent Lovers
The Night Watch
Heavy ConstruKction
Vroom Vroom
Epitaph

(And The Collectable Crimson Vol 1 which you said you had already)
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Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:


The Night Watch
Epitaph

 

I have 30 KC albums and I still need these two grrrr. 
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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

Essential :

Epitaph vol. 1&2
Summit Studios '72
The Night Watch/The Great Deceiver
Absent Lovers
Déja Vrooom DVD
Eyes Wide Open DVD




I would think that Epitaph vol 1 is enough. That's the only one I got, but I checked track lists and reviews before deciding to get only vol 1, and for what I remember the tracklists were very very similar, and the sound quality on vol 2 was suposed to be much worse. As for the Wetton era concerts, I don't know "The Night Watch", but I do have "The Great Deceiver", as well as "Collectible King Crimson Vol 1", and I would give the edge to Collectible. Once again, the tracklist is very similar (though "Great Deceiver" has more CD's, so it repeasts tracks more times), and I like better most of the tracks on Collectible.

Epitaph vol. 3&4 are for completists only. The Night Watch is a must even if you already have TGD Dellinger.
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:


Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

The Night Watch
Epitaph

 

I have 30 KC albums and I still need these two grrrr. 


You do.

Especially, Epitaph. My only complaint is with the sound quality which is quite variable (but never truly awful)...but boy do they accentuate all the positives of that early phase in KC's career.
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My favorite by far is the Great Deceiver box set....though I also like Epitaph parts 1 and 2.
One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
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The Great Deceiver! I haven't heard it in a while since my box set got yoinked, but it is the ultimate live Fripp/Bruford/Wetton/Cross KC experience. There's a version of Talking Drum on there that is beyond amazing, the rest is merely amazing. And so many improvs. Some of the audience chatter is great too. The end of one of Cross' drawn-out violin solos is punctuated by an audible "Well that took a while to get there". Come to think of it that might have been Bruford. Seems like something he'd say.
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My favorite live King Crimson was when I saw the LTIA band, sans Jamie Muir, at the Chicago Kinetic Playground on 20 April, 1973

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/king-crimson/1973/kinetic-playground-chicago-il-7bd88a84.html

The opening act was Peter Frampton.  In an odd way, it worked.  
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